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Comment: Survival is not pleasant (Score 4, Insightful) 105

by s.petry (#49596783) Attached to: Climatologist Speaks On the Effects of Geoengineering

Sorry, but you can't equate a nations survival against a different nation with an argument with your wife. Not even close to the same thing, and much more is at stake. Take his biggest example, what should Earth's surface temperature target? Any fixed rate will impact someone's growing seasons and food production. Somebody has to lose something, or perhaps it's best to term it "sacrifice" something. Does Asia lose rice production, or does Europe/North America lose grain production?

The article does not even tough the bigger issues. The particles that have been patented for use in GeoEngineering are hazardous. Perhaps there are other patents we don't know about, but the ones we do know about are primarily barium and aluminum. Neither humans or animals process large amounts of metals very well, and metals have a toxic effect over time because we can't process them out of our systems. Somebody has to take the blame when people start dropping, and war is probably going seen as the only option to fight off "those evil poisoner people".

Comment: Yes and No (Score 2) 141

by s.petry (#49589979) Attached to: Can Riots Be Predicted By Social Media?

I would agree that our so-called "News" blows some things out of proportion. At the same time I lived most of my life near Detroit and more recently in CA (SF Area). I have friends and family in most Southern states. There are absolutely pockets where the economy is bad enough that I'd agree with GP about the powder keg waiting for a spark. Even in the SF Bay area, I wonder how much it would take to see riots. Here there are the people with money, and those those without.

Measurements on just about everything prove that the Middle Class is becoming an endangered species. The lack of a middle class will lead to revolts at some point, history is pretty clear on that. The Lords with money are generally given plenty of room to be Lords as long as the subjects have a trajectory upward. When all avenues are closed and your option is to be a peasant, Lords tend to lose their heads.

You are claiming that media plays up incidents of protest, which I agree with. We also know that they downplay incidents of protest, distort protests, and in some cases just ignore the best informed protests. It happens to work both ways, depending on who benefits. Racial tensions keep the peasants bickering with each other. Political corruption does not. Guess which gets air time?

Comment: Re:The likely outcome (Score 1) 56

by s.petry (#49589623) Attached to: US Senate Targets Patent Trolls

More likely that nothing changes in my opinion. Society in the US is on brittle ice in many areas. More abuse by oligarchy may push things enough to break the ice, and people in power don't want that to happen. Contrary to the popular opinion, the people in power are not stupid and did not get into power by accident. They are actually very intelligent and well informed for the most part.

No change means that the people currently afforded protection, like IBM/Microsoft/Oracle/etc..., still have their idea patents being enforced. The public bickering however makes the little people think something is working in their favor.

I have learned over a half a century never to measure by what a politician says, but measure their actions. Yup, I'm cynical and pessimistic with the US Government. Decades of watching unchecked abuses tends to do that to a person.

Comment: Re:Different question (Score 1) 700

by s.petry (#49579415) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

'Hundreds of thousands of troops in the Middle East' happened in your imagination only.

Koch brothers having more wealth than Rockefeller is another pathetic delusion. Do a damn Google search.

It is impossible to argue facts against your fantasies.

Oh, and you could also Google search books discussing political conspiracy. That is much harder than Koch wealth and Rockefeller wealth, and takes much more reading. I'm sure hell would freeze over before you attempted to read something that challenged your deluded opinion.

Comment: Re:Different question (Score 1) 700

by s.petry (#49579171) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

Ignore everything and stuff a different label on it to make it true, right? You really believe that the Koch brothers have different interests than lets say David Rockefeller? Do you really believe that they would be allowed to manipulate the system against someone with that much influence? You are sadly wrong on all accounts.

Proven wrong about the Middle East you simply ignore the content and move the argument back to childish labels... truly sad.

Why not read one of the thousands of books written on the subject? Because facts hurt your beliefs right? No sense arguing further.

Comment: Re:Different question (Score 2) 700

by s.petry (#49578907) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

No, I'm claiming that there is no difference between Democrat and/or Republican in the US. There has been no difference for as long as I have been aware of politics (lat 80s) but other people point out that this goes further back (50s/60s).

If the rhetoric claimed by one politicians is X, and the other claims Y they both end up doing Z. Not once, but with anything that matters.

This is factual, volumes of books have been written on the subject. You just don't want to see it because "your guy" could not possibly want to screw you over.

I gave the example of the Middle East and you simply denied it because we pulled out a few US Military people. Which completely ignores the fact that we have increased arming and funding rebel groups, increased bombing campaigns against countries we are not at war with, increased drone operations, and increased the amount of Mercenary companies getting paid by the US Government to be there in place of Uniformed Military.

You are blind!

Comment: Re:Different question (Score 2) 700

by s.petry (#49578467) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics
You really should start looking at the broader picture and use your head a bit. Bush rolling back regulations took more than his pen stroke, and was in the works since the regulations were passed in the 1970s (Clinton did not initiate anti-pollution laws, Carter and Ford did [kind of]). Obama has made the Middle East complete chaos for now at least a half dozen countries instead of the 2 Bush put us in. These guys are not different, you just refuse facts. Perhaps you believe that all of the chaos is purely accidental, and these politicians are really just idiots that don't know what they are doing..

Comment: Re:Horrible argument (Score 1) 700

by s.petry (#49578325) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

You are ignoring all of the various causes for Global warming to make your broken case. Go ahead and live in a Landfill and see how well you are in a few months. Go ahead and breath exhaust for a while, or coal dust, or hang out near some radioactive waste for a while.

In other words, this argument is worse than your last. The only way to make your claim is to ignore reality. Pollution is a huge problem, look at the great Pacific garbage dump as one example. Then remember that EVERY ocean has the same problem. Look at the pollutants in the Great Lakes, and realize that EVERY river and lake in the US has similar problems. Look at the massive deforestation in the US, Africa, South Americal, etc.... Man does not have impact in your fantasy land? Really now....

Comment: Different question (Score 2) 700

by s.petry (#49578151) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

I get GPs point, but believe they asked the wrong question. The question should have been, "What do Democrats DO differently than Republicans?" The answer to that is where people say "nothing" and see that there is no difference between the parties.

Example: Barack Obama claiming "I want peace in the Middle East" is not the same thing as him continuing and extending bombing, drone campaigns, funding and arming rebels, and toppling governments that "The US does not like"

His _actions_ are not different from GW Bush in terms of actual "peace". I don't count any politicians speeches as their actions, I count their actions as their actions.

Comment: Horrible argument (Score 1) 700

by s.petry (#49577649) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

Climate has 'changed' since before humans were on this planet and will continue to change regardless of what we do with our current level of technology.

People have died since the beginning of time as well, does that mean we can no longer investigate murders and accidents? I wonder why you can not see how idiotic your argument is..

Comment: Sophistry (Score 2) 700

by s.petry (#49577607) Attached to: Pope Attacked By Climate Change Skeptics

Rhetoric is not some magical thing owned by only one group. The same types of arguments to sway emotion and ignore information harming your argument have been around for at least 2,600 years. Socrates hated the Sophists because they were masters of manipulation, and cared nothing for truth and honesty.

Why do you think that we have named fallacies, which very few people learn? Oh.. because if people know to look for them the Sophistry begins to fail.

Comment: Re:Popularity (Score 3, Interesting) 53

by s.petry (#49572259) Attached to: KDE Plasma 5.3 Released

Popular != Best, which is extremely subjective. Lots of distros ship Gnome by default, Unity for Ubuntu. I know many people that load KDE and remove the others, it's a pretty desktop and highly configurable.

One of the biggest reasons I prefer KDE in the business world is the ability to Kiosk since v2.x. Something Gnome has promised since version 2 but has never delivered on, and Unity never tried to my knowledge. I can enforce all kinds of policies through the Kiosk, making things like screen lock with password automagic. Auditors love it!

Comment: Another tall tale... (Score 1) 314

by s.petry (#49570183) Attached to: Feds Say It's Time To Cut Back On Fluoride In Drinking Water

Distilled water is not "better" for you, primarily because it lacks minerals that your body needs to function. A little iron is good for the body, as is a little zinc, potassium, sodium, etc.. etc... Many of these things are lacking in foods for various reasons (over processing, soil composition in industrial farming, simply poor diets, etc..)

I agree with the fluoride part, we have that in all kinds of dental products and visits. I have read numerous articles debunking the myth that distilled water is better for you.

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