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Comment Re:Proof that you don't want govt spending your mo (Score 2) 167

The average person cannot be fat, stupid, oblivious, trusting of advertising (and paid studies and other obviously biased sources), saturated in meaningless tabloid bullshit, and view non-job-related thought as tedium to be avoided or offloaded ... and then expect to have a truly representative government. It's never happened before and it's not happening today.

False. I present you with the State of New Jersey: Chris Christie, Governor.

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 733

Why should, as you put it, people with "sensitive needs" drag themselves down to the gutter of this level of communication? Why can't the others drag themselves up a few levels, it would probably attract a load more talented people to the pool.

We disagree about which direction is "up" and which is "down". IMO catering to the neediness of the special snowflakes who insist on anything which might appear be critical be couched in the most indirect terms possible along with ego-stroking to soften the blow is "down".

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 733

It's not a binary between "coddling" (by which I assume you mean making sure no one's feelings ever get hurt) and "being a relentless fucking asshole." It's possible to strike a balance.

There are points where the people you are coddling will still think you're a fucking asshole, if that's what you mean. The happy medium where you are neither coddling people nor having them consider you a fucking asshole... that doesn't exist.

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 733

So I'm waiting for someone at a major corporation that does substantial open source development to file a hostile work environment suit against their company if they are required to do kernel submissions. That would *quickly* result in a change in attitude if a major contributor decided that it was potentially litigiously expensive to contribute.

By what mechanism? None of these corporations controls Linus; Linus cannot be (successfully) sued for contributing to a hostile work environment somewhere else. If some corporation doesn't want to contribute, they won't get what they want in the kernel; Linux and Linus will weather it just fine.

Comment Re: Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 733

And by "civil" you mean a work environment where if you say anything even vaguely critical you get jumped on for "tone", an argument you can win only if your social standing and/or position within a corporate hierarchy is sufficiently higher than the person you are criticizing. Geeks, typically being low ranked both socially and within corporate hierarchies, tend to lose all the time in such an environment; it's no wonder they refuse to create it on their own. What Sharp misses is that in this particular environment, those she criticizes have far more social standing and position than she does, so she cannot win this way.

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 733

Yes, that's fine, and then all but the assholes will leave and you'll end up with a really toxic environment. That's not something to be proud of and more importantly, I think it's a long-term recipe for failure.

Nope, that's when the assholes finally get some work done because they can say what they mean rather than spending all their time trying to walk the nonexistent line between "hurt feelings" and "not getting your point across"

Comment Re:Bacteria spread via the air (Score 1) 117

Proper antibacterial design, with maintenance, never provides a growth medium for whatever bacteria the winds bring in = no films in the first place.

Potable water systems, made of copper, which have never had anything but potable water go through them STILL get biofilms on them.

Comment Re:Yeah, I thought this problem was solved (Score 1) 117

Just having copper in the system won't kill legionella; it can live in copper-piped water systems just fine. Active copper-silver ionization will, but that requires active maintenance, as does every other effective method for treating legionella (UV, ozone, Cu-Ag ionization, chlorine).

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