Yes, Asus had been doing this for a long time but it's remarkable for HP to land so hard in the Android camp after shunning it for so long."
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Not a particular fan of Mr. Card, but I'm genuinely curious - for all the people trying to split hairs and convince us that Card is a reprehensible human being, and his writing deserves no attention from anybody, etc. etc. Where do you draw the line?
I draw the line at me giving Mr. Card money. If I'm aware of someone else intending to give him money (something that happened pretty rarely before hype for the film started to get rolling), I do tell them that he's supported some very homophobic positions and that they might want to do a little googling before they give him their money.
Are you totally fine with the public schools using Ender's Game in a classroom setting?
Totally fine? No. The idea makes me twitch a little, but I'm not going to throw a fit over it. I'd likely send a copy of the same letter I give to bookstores and public libraries, making sure they realize how actively bigoted Mr. Card is. (Now that you mention it, I should probably do that for all my local public school libraries.)
How about including it on a suggested reading list?
I wouldn't include it on a list I put together, because I really don't want to see a whole classroom's worth of students buying his book. It does have a place on, say, a history of military scifi or a list of Hugo and Nebula winners, but on any such list in the immediate future I would include a disclaimer suggesting prospective readers borrow a copy rather than purchase it outright, with a footnote as to why. (Bigotry aside, it's probably better, both in terms of writing, content, and sub-text, than a great deal of the other mil-scifi out there. I would recommend something by the far superior Lois McMaster Bujold instead, though. Maybe Ethan of Athos?
Is it okay to have his books in the school library, where any student can find it?
Yeah. It wouldn't be my first choice to purchase, were I a school librarian, but again, not something I'm going to pitch a fit over. A book that's on the shelf has been bought and paid for. I certainly wouldn't advocate the library turn away a donated copy of Ender's Game. I would suggest than there are probably better books to spend money and shelf-space on than Mr. Card's work after Speaker for the Dead.
What will your response be the day your child comes home with one of Card's books, having borrowed it from a friend?
That it's time for the speech about the difference between authors and their work, assuming I haven't given it already. If it's not one of the better (aka. earlier) ones, I might also suggest they read Ender's Game instead. If I have already given the speech, I'd hold up Mr. Card as a case in point, and then commend my child for being smart enough to not give the bigot more money to spread hate with. After they've read it, talk about what they got out of it and what else might be in there, which is SOP for any book they read.
If supporting him supports hate speech, will you begin boycotting retail stores that sell his work?
Stores that sell his work get a polite letter and email explaining my position, as did my local library. (I don't know if I can take any credit, but they appear to have stopped ordering his newer work - they've got nothing after Ender's Shadow.) Ultimately, I'm boycotting OSC, not just anyone who carries his work. I also put business cards pointing out Mr. Card's political positions along with hyperlinks to some of the things he's said into his books when I see them on the shelf.
After all, we keep hearing the term hate speech bandied about... hate speech has been criminalized in many situations, and we keep hearing that "hate speech can't go unchallenged" - so where do you draw the line, if you're not advocating censorship?
As I said above, he'll get no money from me, and I try to make sure that anyone considering buying his work understands what they're supporting. How to regard artists who've done, or do, questionable things is a difficult problem to wrestle with. In Mr. Card's case it's very tough call to figure out how (and how much) to react, because the comments he has made about homosexuality really are vile. I found it pretty easy to decide to make certain I never support him, because his positions are so horrific and he is currently quite active in promoting them, but beyond that it's tricky. In the future, once Mr. Card is as far removed from the present as we are from, say, H.P. Lovecraft, and is no longer in a position to use his profits and fame to fight against civil rights, this will become a much, much easier problem to deal with. Again, I think the key is to make sure people are fully informed about his politics and activism, and then let them make up their own minds.
'Tolerance' for intolerance is not a type of tolerance. Sorry. Tolerance does not require hate speech to go unchallenged. And nobody is saying he doesn't have a right to speak his mind. What we are saying is that he is a hateful bigot and we are going to boycott (not censor) his works.
Well put. I have yet to see a single post here advocating censorship or Mr. Card or any of his works.
Mr. Card has a long and well-established history of homophobia and attacking gay rights. He's been a board member of the anti-gay marriage National Organization for Marriage for years, and has written far more than, "one article for a Mormon audience". Here are some examples, more can easily be found with a quick google search.
"I find the comparison between civil rights based on race and supposed new rights being granted for what amounts to deviant behavior to be really kind of ridiculous. There is no comparison. A black as a person does not by being black harm anyone. Gay rights is a collective delusion that’s being attempted. And the idea of ‘gay marriage’ — it’s hard to find a ridiculous enough comparison." Interview with Salon
From his article for the Deseret News, "The first and greatest threat from court decisions in California and Massachusetts, giving legal recognition to "gay marriage," is that it marks the end of democracy in America." That's not directed at a Mormon audience, it's a local paper.
From People For the American Way, "Laws against homosexual behavior should remain on the booksto be used when necessary to send a clear message that those who flagrantly violate society's regulation of sexual behavior cannot be permitted to remain as acceptable, equal citizens."
Card has some gay characters in his work and they're portrayed sympathetically (or, at least as much as any other of his characters), so the "anti-gay hate speech" can't be referring to his art.
The gay man in Homecoming who has to get married "for the good of society" is portrayed sympathetically? The later Ender books, where he goes on at John Normanesque lengths about how great hetero sex is? His depiction of homosexuality as pedophila in Songmaster?
So it must refer to statements he's made on his personal blog, etc.
If this is the case, I can only reconstruct your reasoning thus (please feel free to let me know if I'm missing your point): 1) Card says things I consider reprehensible; 2) Giving him money supports his ability to say reprehensible things; 3) Therefore, if I pay for his work, I am implicated in the reprehensible things he does.
[snipping long reductio ad absurdum] Yes, you are missing the point. His blog (and other writings) contain offensive hate speech. Card is a prominent author, who gets attention and a 'bully pulpit' because of the success of his works and who uses the profits from those works to publicize and otherwise support his reprehensible views. The ACs who responded to you have done a very good job of pointing out what's wrong with your reasoning; I agree with them. In short, there's a difference between going to a theater where one of the owners quietly donates some of his profits to the KKK (still not the act of a decent human being, imnsho), versus patronizing a theater that has an "Aryans Only" sign out front. Mr. Card is not just supporting causes which I think are vile, he is openly and publicly funding and advocating for them.
Will this never-ending series of PLEASURABLE EVENTS never cease?