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Comment Food for thought (Score 1) 446

This /. story is day-old so prob stale by now and OK for me to comment w/out griefr's - so here's my thoughts on what's been said:

As w/every post, the thread goes well beyond food issues and business interests; As always, the pros and cons are all
laid out bare, well and good. sick and poorly, within the scope of this collective's singular perspectives.

Here, the talk is added cost of labeling vs sunk costs to health and saftey. Can't tell the sock-puppets w/out scorecards/labels.
Branding aside, labels have come to mean nothing at all, regardless of GMO. Unless you know (and trust) the producer,
reputation means diddly in the 'corporate' world.
"Big" biz plays by no rules, don't get caught, that's just about it. And even that one, with some embarrassment finding just about every news-cycle,
has lost its' teeth. Pay a fine, admit no guilt, after sparing no expense to play for time exhausting the four Dâ(TM)s
(Deny, Disrupt, Degrade & Deceive)

Puting the arguments for SMB as factual and otherwise correct aside, big .gov is beholden to big .biz and those .coms
(even the best or biggest) are competing tooth-n-nail w/other, foreign (whatever that has become to mean) .coms
for investors (Mit's paradise) that excludes about 90% of the world's population.
GM, now a shell for a bankers' wet dream, lays off US workers the same week their execs in CN glow/fawn over booming expectations.
Home ownership has lost value while the overbearing of private equity and high-finance steals all its wind.
The fix is in, the system is rigged, cards are stacked, and house always wins; worst case causes a disaster then comes to the rescue to bleed
the carcass dry.

We already do not know where our (corporate) food comes from; it's a positive sign that more people are reading the labels at all.
The 50 shades of choices we see in the isles has no connection to the companies (investors) who own and possibly control them.
Cascadia (all natural...) gets purchased by GMills; will they add GMO's to an otherwise 'organic' product? They might if they could.
What's worse, their reach extends to prohibiting GMO-labeling AND non-GMO labeling. Like gag-orders, we can't say it is, can't say it isn't. Those who make what we eat (are bound to)
put profit over people, trust that.

Even what is generally considered safe (HFCS) does not mean good for you; even if its pronounceable. Artificial flavors, colors, tastebugs
to fool our tastebuds; what it means to be bitter, sour, sweet, salty or umami. Welcome to biotek; trans-fat full of never-ending possibilities.

What corporate interests can spent: to hide their skeletons, to enact or defeat bills, to get their way by exersizing monetary control
over the public's voice in the political system is at public expense and (mostly) against their desire.
The commonweal is a weak force under the weight of capitalism; tho it and free-trade seem more notional ideals than their current sorry state.
It's has come to know neither bounds nor shame, and given the enormous resources of lobby and lawyers, few limits on what they cannot get away with.

Always question of scale, always relative, always growing, always demanding more of everything; including consumption.
The cost of national politics and lawmaking, in time wasted begging and the ridiculous amounts required,
has replaced (the notional ideal of) democracy with a full-on pay-to-play congressionsl cesspool.
Lawyers and millionaires masquerading as buffoons. safely re-electable, ensconced in their office doing 'insider-trading'.
Nearby is a`supreme court which resembles a parliment of crows, one of which is a zombie placemat.
Both of which hold the lowest public esteem in history.
They have created an atmosphere no less corrupt than the stink-eye and filthy shakedown on any roadside in any banana-republic,
they increasingly declare our valuables a criminal to be seized at will or taken by domain.

And when big means TBTF it means socialized costs after privatized profits (before they scoot, change their name/game).
We pretend, for sake of civility, that it's oh so respectable, these battles of business, their bankrollers and the collateral public damage.
That it is 'society's best alternative to the tribalism of marauding bands and gangs controlling our lands; that we need
protecting from. Though we are no less serfs in their king/fief .doms, more peons laboring in the fields the elites have created for us.

Who can blame anyone for turning a blind-eye and playing the 'game'; in the name of teamwork and compromise and getting along?
The HFCT and the hot-dog vendor share a common drive (also a weakness): to improve their (family's) lot and ensure legacy.
Commonplace corruption has driven up the costs of civilization in correlation to it's waste stream, creating a disposable society.
Will it be only a matter of time when it costs 1Bn to run for president; or a 1Tr to do a LBO of some humongous conglomerate?
We live in a very broken system that has to crush under its' own weight; be changed by a ground-swell of demand that it cannot reconcile.

Only a matter of time, if not in our time.
As the social value of congregating in the warmth of the hearth, the fireplace,
became superceeded when it moved into the agrarian's kitchen (it being the warmest place),
just having a warm spot to squat meant less than the where/what/how of food; the core driver of our existance.
But we no longer recognize conventions once mannered. like eating in silence, not drinking between bites.
New meanings transformed eating beyond the event itself, less because of the actual meal, but like golf, as an event to get shit done;
the perfect combo of business and pleasure. So gratifying to our sense of self.

Better living through chemistry, perhaps that's true, or will be. As long as Big Agra is only beholden to its shareholders, I'll take my chances with "all-natural" in the meantime.
My expectation is that increased consciousness of how one's food is grown or made, the experience of shopping the supa-marts,
might result in ultimately seeking a divorce between one's caloric intake and the fondness for eating; and other hand2mouth habits.
Greater interest in finding ways to forsake foodstuffs altogether, with better choices that save time and effort for other things.

For most humans, eating is a pasttime who's only pleasure is the absence of hunger; for the rest, 'dining' is an indulgence
which maybe in a few generations will lose its meaning. (What would JohnStewart do if the world only had Arbey's?)

Comment Re:Isreal (Score 1) 383

"coming off rather on the antisemitic side..."

"The Palestinians are generally bad people..."

Well, gee "Us good, Them bad" critics are
anti-semites so have no standing....

You're a real tool, dontcha know.

FWIW, antisemitic is also anti-arab
and 'true' judaism has more in common with arabs in the Levant than with their ashkenazi descendants who somehow feel its their right to squat on land they have no actual right to be on.

The issue is not judiasm, not semitics, but Zionism and the (very) bad karma in the afterbirth of the State of Israel.

Comment Re:Spoofing (Score 1) 234

What you said!

For /. - anyone who freqs here should have learned how2 then rooted their droids ASAP. No different from exercising control of their linux boxen.

I like, in concept at least, the notion of android; though i'll drop it instantly for a true linux based phone using 'certified' apt/yum... repos.

I think, in many ways, that just as www lowered the bar to self-publishing android has done the same for app development; so easy a cave-man can do it.

Just compare the gross number of apps out there to those available in repository to see the difference.

Google serves its own interests for sure, but 'the more apps the better' is not much different from 'many ways to do one thing' The onus/burden has always been on the end-user to choose wisely.

Anyone who doesn't take the time to understand the working of the devices they trust to compute and communicate deserves what they get.

Comment Re:Who? (Score 1) 306

" just push ahead with whatever seems..."

Which goes a long way to explaining why things are
working so well for us all.

Seriously, systems are as fucked-up as they are
because some "A-types" have to feel able to do anything asked of them; and when it doesn't go as planned, they only need "more $, more manpower".
"let's not dwell on how we got here and focus on the goal(s)"
It's not piss-poor planning, it's tailoring the
plan (its feasibility) to a desired outcome
facts be damned.

WTF? It's all bullshit. It's putting
good ol boys in places that reward failure with
promotions. It's about supressing critical
thinking so as not to temper people's enthusiasm.

It's about trusting that when things don't go
as planned the process will just correct itself.

Yet, the more we come to learn it seems the 'best
and brightest' collectively are over paid and
over credited blowhards whose ego's are their own
worst enemies.

I can only conclude that stated goals are eclipsed
by the unstated ones; basically self-promotion.
For 'them and those like us'. Getting w/the
program, belonging to the group, requires it.

Look at our green machine; a vast ring-knocker
brain-trust that always seems to repeat its
own mistakes from one generation to the next.
COIN failed, CT failed, both never lived up to
expectations, but it sure has enriched a fuckton
of ring-knockers.

I'm concluding that our society's motto is
'get away w/it as long as you can then lie and
spin and hope to outrun the pitchforks if/when
people get wise to the massive theft perpetrated
upon them.

What our 'leaders' are doing 'in our name' will
be our ruination.
Maybe it's just the human condition

Of course you can't flap your arms and fly to the moon. After a while you'd run out of air to push against.