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Comment Re: Follow the money (Score 1) 211

It's not exactly that.

If successful, you also get the existence of the product, in the offered conditions.

Example, you pay $200, and you get you widget next year, or you have to wait until Apple/whoever "creates" it in 4-5 years, patents it, and then you have a chance to buy it for $500.

It _is_ an investment.

Comment Re:This is a good thing. (Score 1) 291

Yes, that's essentially the same thing, you believe the economy will keep growing forever, because there will always be scarcity to fuel it.

The problem with that is that you can sell only 7 billion iphones a year, and the minute you achieve that, you just can't keep growing anymore.

The few things that are naturally scarce are not enough to fuel an economy. A small fraction of people work because they want nicer things, but most do it because they need to pay the mortgage or feed their kids. That's a large part of the economy.

Comment Re:This is a good thing. (Score 2) 291

3 is just an implementation of 2, maybe flawed.

In any case, it's easy to understand that there _will_ come a time where money stops being the center of our lives, and we produce enough stuff for everyone without having everyone work 40+ hours a week.

The question is _when_, and _how_ that change happens. Marx thought it would happen soon. The commies thought it was possible a century ago. Looks like they were wrong in that, also in their methods. They also thought they knew what people wanted, looks like they were mostly wrong. We still need to see what happens with China's version.

The lukewarm socialist think that the welfare state is going to grow until everything is taken care of by the state. Has it problems, but might work. Basic income is one of the big steps in that direction, and one of the easiest measures to implement.

Right wing people seem to just think that economy, both physical and virtual, is going to keep growing forever, and that scarcity will fuel its growth forever. If there comes a time that that no longer happens, there's no plan, and they probably hope to be already dead by then.

Comment Re:Did you compile it yourself? (Score 1) 214

What you say doesn't deny what I said.

You say that some open source code went unaudited, even though it should have been audited.
Open source enables people to do stuff, it doesn't magically make them do it.
Just because openssl could be audited, it didn't magically get audited. But still, it _could_ be audited. That's the first step.

In the case of cars, it's easy, you can just have governments pay for auditing. But you need the code for that to be manageable.

Comment Re:Did you compile it yourself? (Score 1) 214

That's proof by lack of will, or imagination.

Open source means that you, or an army of people like you, can get it audited, somehow.
For example, you can set up a kickstarter for it and pay someone you trust.
You might also have the competition look at cheats.
Your government can also audit the source, if it's important enough.

People do have power, it takes a lot of getting together with others and stuff, but a lot more is possible than what you can do personally.

Comment Re:It's not discrimination if people aren't applyi (Score 1) 362

I don't think that's how it works.
There's a place for knowledge and experience, and there's a place for fresh talent and creativity.
Also, they have a different value for the company. Experienced guys are worth more, so they are paid more. Younger ones will maybe make it up in volume or not, so they are paid less.

I don't see that as a problem, just reality.

I don't think companies want younger guys because they are cheaper, they are aware they are less productive, esp in the long run, so it's the same deal for them to hire an experienced guy for 120k vs one or two young guys for 70k each (just an example, I don't live in the US).

But... two things...

One of them, inexperienced devs _may_ have a hidden cost in the long run, but for public companies there is no long run, there's only next quarter, and the managers kpi related bonuses. So, costs you won't look at, they don't exist.

The second one, inexperienced guys are inexperienced, so you can get away with paying a lot less than _their_ already lower worth. Also, they will work extra hours for free, will study stuff in their time, not company time. They will travel for free, so as to know new places. They will ask for less money out of lack of experience, and because they value other stuff like getting experience and contacts.

This means that you have to pay an older guy his worth, and you get younger guys at a discount on their already lower value, with no extra cost. Maybe mentoring kids into asking for that they are worth will make them better negotiators, and a little less desirable?

Comment Re:So is conlang not for hobbyists? (Score 1) 98

"okthxbai" helps you train not to click again on links to that content, so it will eventually rank lower for the search engine.
Also, in any environment, if enough people take the "okthxbai" route, restricted content will eventually lose popularity, regardless of its inherent value. That is an incentive for other to share their knowledge in a more open way.
So, "okthxbai" might not give you the piece of info you thought you were accessing, but end up giving you more and better information than you wished for.

Comment Re:Market Forces (Score 1) 231

They are not discrete markets, it's a single one.

US companies don't exist in a vacuum. Some of their profits come from foreign countries, and some of that money get spent in the local US market. That helps the local economy, and keeps more people employed. In fact, the US as a whole gets to do business mostly everywhere, so it's a mostly free market in that respect, but labour can't move freely. This kind of thing helps labour to move more freely, so it's a freer market, in the Adam Smith sense. I know that this is fueled by corporate greed, but the market end up more free, I don't think you can question that.

Again, I think it's reasonable to fight this, because this is harmful to US guys, but I don't think it's a matter of overall fairness, but more of the legitimate personal benefit of US workers.

Comment Re:Market Forces (Score 1) 231

I don't support (or otherwise care about) H1B visas, but that's inexact.

US companies trade their products and services throughout the world. The world is their market, so it's a freer market if you allow foreigners to participate, not only with their purchasing dollars, but also with their work.

H1B visas and other ways to hire cheaper foreigners, while not its "intended" purpose, and while it's bad for locals, it does make the market freer and fairer. That's exactly why this is bad for locals, and they should fight it.

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