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Comment: Re:Let me be the first to say it... (Score 2) 396

Let me guess, you're writing these lines from the comfort of your air conditioned home office?

Give the man a break, he's had more impact than close to everyone on this site will ever have. And now he's in Russian hands, who have can easily blackmail him into anything.

Comment: Re:Proven Correctness (Score 1) 664

by neumayr (#46310909) Attached to: Stack Overflow Could Explain Toyota Vehicles' Unintended Acceleration

o_O

What you're arguing against is might not be what the parent stated. Yes, proving your software is working correctly is hard, very hard. Not possible for an individual developer in a real life situation (limited time, resources, formal education in mathematics - what are you doing writing commercial code when you're a mathematician?). That's one of the issue what I believe the parent wanted to mitigate with improved development tools, which also need to be bug free of course. At some level, the building blocks need to be proven to work correctly, you're right there. But that's should not be for the feature developer to do, he should be able to rely on the tools he's given.

Yes, I agree with the parent, software development is way to hard at the moment, the analogy "It's as if engineers decided to only use modeling clay for buildings, because nobody sells steel, and it's too cumbersome to smelt their own." holds true and seems to fit with what you're saying.

Comment: Re:Live in a cave (Score 1) 664

by neumayr (#46310789) Attached to: Stack Overflow Could Explain Toyota Vehicles' Unintended Acceleration

It is pretty common to blame users for system malfunctions. And often, that turns out to be correct. However, you being here, chances are you somehow involved in software development and its processes, and have experienced many of its failures. Here, we're talking about software people bet their life on. I do think it's warranted to look very closely and actually rule out that the failure was a technical one, and I find it difficult to imagine an argument against that.

Comment: Re:Offline composition of Slashdot comments (Score 1) 506

by neumayr (#44677671) Attached to: The Greatest Keyboard Shortcut Ever
At what step in your mulit-tiered review system does it usually occur to that you're not writing for publishing, but partaking in a online discussion? How often did you decide your phrasing does not fit the purpose and started over? How often did the discussion move along to other sub-threads and your carefully worded post ignored?

Comment: Re:No really, it's jQuery that's broken (Score 1) 213

by neumayr (#42938879) Attached to: WebKit As Broken As Older IE Versions?

You make some good point. Howevr, imagine the following not uncommon scenario:

1. A small number of experienced developers starts a project
2. The devs choose to build their own framework for the reasons you describe
3. PM wants ever more features, the project grows, more developers join
4. All new code is build on the framework made in step 2
5. Framework is extended
6. Original devs leave

So now everyone can use the framework, but it's original devs stopped maintaining it. Everyone know how to use the framework, but nobody knows its inner workings well enough - we have a custom, still lightweight framework tailored for the job, but nobody's maintaining it. The worst of both worlds, a framework maintained by people you can't rely on to understand it and fix its bugs, and the initial investment to build it in the first place.

In the end, you're right, there is no clearly defined criteria for which approach is better than the other, both ways has a very good chance to bite you in the ass. My perspective however, not as a developers of production systems but a software testing engineer (writing code to break other people's code ;)), what I see is bugs, bugs everywhere. Hardly any new feature, however straight forward it appears in its original specs, that's not can of worms of new and exciting issues. That's why I'm very skeptical of using new code when existing, already tested code exists.

Comment: Re:No really, it's jQuery that's broken (Score 1) 213

by neumayr (#42918211) Attached to: WebKit As Broken As Older IE Versions?

This is hard to prove or disprove. Sure, throwing some huge framework on a small problem is not a sensible approach. Seems like a no-brainer. But where to draw the line? A real life application constantly grows, and has a good chance to eventually use a growing percentage of the features exposed by a given framework. If you know your application will not outgrow its initial specs (in an unexpected way), it might make sense to opt for an own framework.

My personal experience, however, is that developers too often opt for their own solutions, maybe due some kind of not invented here syndrome, and duplicate a lot of work. That is bad in a lot of ways, as a well maintained framework with multiple developers and documented bugs is always preferable to completely new code.

Comment: Re:No really, it's jQuery that's broken (Score 1) 213

by neumayr (#42915907) Attached to: WebKit As Broken As Older IE Versions?

Usually, frameworks are not written and maintained by one person. And thus, you are free to worry about your own code and its bugs, and have others worry about the framework's bugs (within reason, for crucial bugs you will of course need to worry about finding a viable workaround). Code reuse is a good thing, and no single person is smarter than > 1 person.

Also, frameworks do not usually change completely in less than a year, and the change that does happen is gradual - as long as you keep the framework you use up to date the learning curve is flat.

Comment: Re:No really, it's jQuery that's broken (Score 1) 213

by neumayr (#42915825) Attached to: WebKit As Broken As Older IE Versions?
Hehe, yeah, you're sooo much smarter than those idiots who wrote this framework with the sole purpose to enable other idiots to take shortcuts instead of doing things properly[tm]. Anyways, "Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans."

Comment: Re:It's called the key (Score 1) 1176

by neumayr (#42914323) Attached to: Driver Trapped In Speeding Car At 125 Mph

I don't know about that specific case, but from your description it doesn't apply to my argument: Either the car worked and the guy was joyriding, which isn't panicking, just general douchebaggyness, or the car did indeed fail, and the guy killed neither himself nor anyone else, which also isn't panicking.

Generally yes, in most cases the guy operating the "failing" machine is himself the point of failure. But that doesn't mean that's always the case.

Comment: Re:It's called the key (Score 1) 1176

by neumayr (#42907379) Attached to: Driver Trapped In Speeding Car At 125 Mph
As you understand the argument on bad road conditions, all that's left is a situation where the road condition turns from bad to worse unexpectedly. Shifting back into gear still takes some time. Plus, using the hydraulic brakes where the engine brake would do causes additional wear. However, I don't know how much wear would warrant how much additional fuel intake.

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