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Comment: Re:What's the point? (Score 2) 194

by nej_simon (#39704463) Attached to: MATE Desktop 1.2 Released

Modernizing GNOME2, yeah, that'll be a massive job man, what with it being so ancient and all, I mean the devs stopped working on it way back in 2010.

Gnome 2 was created some 10 years ago and while it has been improved and updated it still carries a lot of cruft.

Seriously, sure it should be updated to GTK3 at some point, but the GTK2 libs will still work until get around to it. So they can either take the GNOME2 codebase and update it in a piecemeal fashion as their resources allow, or they can completely reimplement all the GNOME2 features on top of GNOME classic which should only take them a few years. Now which is the best option for someone who wants something GNOME2-like now.

As I said, most of that work has already been done. Gnome classic is a port of the gnome 2 desktop, not a reimplementation.

Comment: Re:What's the point? (Score 2) 194

by nej_simon (#39702143) Attached to: MATE Desktop 1.2 Released

Why not improve the gnome classic desktop from gnome 3 instead? This zombie-gnome2 effort seems like a waste of time to me.

Can you put a weather widget on the top bar on Gnome3 Classic? How about a CPU temp sensor? How about a graph that shows CPU, RAM, swap, and network usage? Maybe a sensor that shows the CPU speed for each core with the ability to change them to ondemand or performace? Can you put the taskbar on bottom bar? Can you put just a gnome foot (start button) on the bottom left like Windows and the full menu on top (Gnome-foot, Places, System)?

The last time I tried Gnome3, none of these things were possible. These were not an option on Gnome3 Classic either. I want my old Gnome2 back, not the "look" of Gnome2 stuck on top of Gnome3. I don't want "New Coke" in an "Old Coke" can.

You can do all those things in gnome fallback (though you need to hold alt when right clicking on the panel). The same applets are available: http://omgubuntu.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gnome-fallback.jpg Besides you seem to be missing my point. I never said that gnome classic is great. But if you want to maintain a traditional desktop it would be better to start with gnome classic rather than taking on the huge job of modernizing gnome 2 since most of the effort has already been done.

Comment: Re:GNOME is a study in how to not architect softwa (Score 2) 237

by nej_simon (#37968040) Attached to: GNOME Shell No Longer Requires GPU Acceleration

It basically goes totally downhill after that. This bullshit with GPU acceleration being required in the first place, and then this additional bullshit involving LLVM, is yet another in a long list of flaws and horrible decisions.

Err.. The llvmpipe driver is developed by mesa and xorg to provide a software fallback driver that is faster than the dog slow swrast driver. Exactly why is this "bullshit" and a "horrible decision."?

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