Yeah, because ASM is the only alternative. Eyeroll.

"Grandpa" is right. We've traded an awful lot of bloat for ... what, exactly? Vague promises of improved developer productivity? The outright lie of simplicity?

He may not be willing to blame the languages outright, but I'd back him up if he did.

Please, a Real Programmer wouldn't even bother with a so-called "optimizing" assembler. Too inefficient. "You never know where it's going to put things, so you'd have to use separate constants."

Well said.

Your post puts me in mind of Chuck Moore.

Are you sure? The Atari Mindlink was never actually released -- and read "forehead muscle movement" not "brainwaves".

There were a lots of ads for it though.

Let's start with your first point:

Where's the evidence?

I'll settle for a journal article.

I agree. It's a waste of time as you won't find anything. That's my point.

I thought we were talking about facts and evidence, not my personal beliefs? What's your obsession with what I personally believe?

My guess? You're just avoiding the truth.

Your claim: There exists "plenty of scientific evidence that all conscious response is the result of electrical activity in the brain".

Present some evidence to support that claim. If you're claim is true, this should be really really easy. That's dramatically different from your earlier claims, but I don't expect that you acknowledge a difference, so we'll roll with it for the time being. Once we get you to post something other than pure assertion, we'll work on deconstructing your original post.

Of course, it's impossible for you to meet that simply challenge as no such evidence exists. You won't believe that, of cousre, until your search turns up empty. I suspect by now that you've figured it out, which is why you STILL haven't offered any evidence in support of your claims.

What I believe is irrelevant to the discussion. After all, what I believe will not alter my claim: that you presented baseless speculation as fact.

What argument? I've only asked you for one thing: present evidence to support your claims which are obviously, as I asserted earlier, baseless speculation. You seem more concerned about my personal beliefs and motivations, which are completely irrelevant to the topic of discussion. I suspect it's because you really don't like the conclusion you'll be forced to draw if you face my simple challenge head-on. :)

Then present some. (This may be difficult for you as none actually exists.)

Then present the evidence!

I made NO such assertion! Like the imaginary evidence you allude to above, you'll find that a quote from me making such an assertion does not exist.

Now, go do some reading. I'd say that you're in for a surprise, but I've already spoiled the ending.

Absolute nonsense. Go ahead, try to support your assertions with established science. You'll find that it's impossible.

Again, you're confused. Your assertions are NOT in any way the "results of the scientific process". You'll discover this as you try to address the challenge presented above.

Why are so many "defenders of science" scientifically illiterate?

No, that's very outdated. Computationalism has been dead for a while now.

Ah, you're just confused. See, you've come to your conclusions from a set of metaphysical assumptions, which you've confused with "established medical and scientific fact".

That's why you can't actually support your assertions -- they're completely baseless!

Again, you're confused. My thoughts and opinions on the larger issue are completely irrelevant, which is why I haven't advanced any position. You seem to think that by pointing out the obvious fact that your post was nothing but baseless speculation was an indictment of your claims or was made in support of the parent's. That's all in your imagination.

The only position I've advanced is that you presented baseless speculation as fact and that what the parent presented was also mere speculation.

Sure you did. See your earlier post.

I suppose so, though it would be easier for you to just scroll up a bit.

You can find more above.

I never asked you to "prove a negative". You made several positive claims in your post, after all.

The ideas presented in your post as fact are nothing but pure speculation; absolutely no different from the parents, which you call "batshit crazy". Why is your baseless speculation better than the parents?

Prove it.

Ugh... You really just don't get it.

Misogyny is all the rage in tech, gaming, and rationalist communities. I have no idea why, but I wish they'd tone it down.