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Comment: Re:different from Cornsweet (Score 1) 219

by narcc (#49153289) Attached to: Is That Dress White and Gold Or Blue and Black?

I'm convinced that this is just a joke that I've missed. I've tried good displays, crappy displays, various lighting, brightness settings, backgrounds, room lighting, viewing angles and probably something I've forgot. I can not get that dress to look white and gold.

It reminds me of "The emperors new cloths".

Comment: Re:If you hate Change so much...... (Score 1) 487

by narcc (#49148233) Attached to: Users Decry New Icon Look In Windows 10

No, you didn't. You just suck at reading.

Nowhere do I imply that the icons are appealing -- only that they're rendered with skill that exceeds that of the average six-year-old. If a six-year-old had produced those icons, I'd be very impressed. As they're presumably the work of a professional designer, they're absolutely awful.

Comment: Re:"Born atheist" quite a leap (Score 1) 506

by narcc (#49148193) Attached to: Machine Intelligence and Religion

Well, it's very basic logic. It just takes a long time to explain, in very painful detail, to someone without a background in formal logic. To see my perspective, try to explain something like 4=2+2 in a post under the assumption that anything you write could be challenged, regardless of the relevance, by someone with no understanding of basic arithmetic. Oh, and without being able to type common operators. It'll be a pain the ass, take forever, and is very unlikely to produce positive results.

Comment: Re:"Born atheist" quite a leap (Score 1) 506

by narcc (#49141103) Attached to: Machine Intelligence and Religion

Atheism is an absence of belief, not a belief in absence.

You know that those are logically identical, right?

A simplified example: "John doesn't believe God exists" is identical to "John believes God does not exist" as they both expresses, unambiguously, John's beliefs about the existence of God. That is, to the question "Does John believe God exists" both statements evaluate the same way: "no".

I understand why you want to say ridiculous things like that. It may even be effective if your opponent is a moron. But it's complete nonsense. If you care, at all, about reason and logic (as many internet Atheists claim) you shouldn't abandon it so readily, regardless of your motivation.

Now that that's out of the way, this is what you *actually* want to do is differentiate between gnostic and agnostic atheism. Take a look around here, or (if you can stomach it) JREF and you'll find quite a few gnostic atheists -- those that believe, with impressive conviction, that no gods exist and assert knowledge to that effect. The more sensible agnostic atheist, while lacking a belief in god, claims no knowledge of that fact, they merely don't believe in the existence of any god.

The crux of that is 'belief' Belief is an interesting thing, as belief is not subject to the will. That is, you can't simply choose to believe or not believe in God or anything else. For example, you can't, no matter how hard you try, force yourself to disbelieve in the existence of Tom Cruise. Equally, it's impossible for you, through an act of will, to believe in Santa Clause.

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