^^^ Unfortunately this is very true. Where I work resumes w/ no degrees don't get passed on to the hiring managers. Which is sad really, because most of us in the R&D department (where I work) agree that there are probably plenty of bright, non-degree'd engineers out there. But stupid Human Resources has their rules. Usually for this reason alone, I recommend to younger friends that if they really do have a desire to work in the corporate world (not for everyone of course), they should at least seriously consider and look in to a 4 year degree program. I know that I would not be where I am in my career today without mine. Maybe I would have eventually gotten here, but it would have taken a lot longer (as I would have most likely started farther down the ladder).