There I thought I was gonna see a sword swallowed or a nail into a sinus cavity..in SPACE! This folk music is no Oddity!

"Astronaut Chris Hadfiled Performs the Song Space Oddity"...FTFY

We're citizens. People. Not fucking consumers. When government refers to us or treats us as consumers, it does us a great disservice. Secondly, taxes are charity given to government to provide public services. No one OWES anything.

Dam Hackers!

It seemed like it took forever for Firefox 1.0 to be released back when I was using Firefox .8 and .9. I remember people sarcastically complaining numerous times in the forums back then that the developers were trying to create an operating system and not a browser. Well, here we are a little over 10 years later talking about Firefox OS's new payment system. I wonder how much, if any, of that source code from the pre-one-point-oh release is still in Firefox today. Is there any of it in FFox OS? I know I sure never thought there would be a market for a Firefox OS back in 2003. Kudos to the mozilla team.

Friar Tuck: This is grain, which any fool can eat, but for which the Lord intended a more divine means of consumption. Let us give praise to our maker and glory to his bounty by learning about... BEER.

how much money did you take home after taxes for your "failed" year in 2012? After answering the question, remind me why I should be concerned about you.
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I guess because they used good old fashioned con artistry in the form of a seemingly somewhat successful spearphish. (Say that four times fast , boys and goyls!)

to name the agent publicly?

IT staff
Support Staff
Customer Service
Engineers
Even some service industry jobs like hotel staff

All being H1-B'ed and frequently subsidized at the taxpayer's expense.
This country's government has no sense of how to do anything but keep
itself in power and fully funded. As long as the corporates support them
financially and politically, expect more of the same legislation that has brought
us to this point.

Can't wait to have GREEN buses for Congress to throw me under.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Many years working on a farm provides me with experience and far more knowledge of the situation than someone who did not.
  I stated two problems. These were indisputable facts.

I added in that IF you factored in the other incidentals, usage jumped significantly more. Again, not anything but 2+2 there.

I called no one's numbers B.S. and in fact, stated " that I'm not sure that there is a net energy gain from using corn to produce fuel fit for internal combustion engines."

Could it be that you know you have no ground to stand on and that is why you hide behind AC? Go crawl back under your bridge, troll.

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I totally considered that. But we're talking about fuel usage here and I only used the heating of the farmer's house as an example of other smaller factors to consider when running a farm. Yes, all those things have to be done. I'm OK with that being done as long as there is a gain to be had. There simply isn't a net gain when trying to use corn as fuel. Try to pick apart the argument all you want, the numbers do not support a pro-ethanol position. Uses more energy to produce it than it provides.

Fifth problem:
It takes a LOT of fossil fuel to produce enough corn to make ethanol. (Tractors, farm trucks, big rigs & trains to haul, etc.)

6th problem:
It takes a LOT of fossil fuel to actually make the ethanol. Distilleries don't heat themselves.

If you factor in all the little things that are not covered here like fuel to heat the farmer's house, the likely fossil fuels used to produce electricity that farms use (and they use a lot if electricity), I'm not sure that there is a net energy gain from using corn to produce fuel fit for internal combustion engines. The whole ethanol industry reeks of scam. The point is, there are more efficient and cleaner alternatives out there. As long as big money from oil, big agra, etc. continue to control the elected officials that dole out subsidies, tax breaks, and that let these same companies write legislation that affect us, it will continue to be this backwards, ridiculous, B.S.