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Comment: APK's security guide is more than HOSTS only (Score 1) 874

by kingsjokers (#32155438) Attached to: Top 10 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do

First of all, you can't even program (I've repeatedly asked if you have a degree in computers and you evade that question, because you do not.

Logic doesn't work that way I'm afraid. Not answering a personal question you have no right to ask that's ludicrous on the face of it doesn't mean the answer is "No", and further, an absolutely huge portion of this industry is comprised of people who program and who don't have degrees.

What you've implied, repeatedly, is that nobody has the right to comment on your "achievements" unless we've done something similar.

Your achievements are writing crapware, including software classified, for several years, as malware by the malware community, and writing a guide to system protection based upon a ludicrous, stupid, and demonstrably useless "anti-virus" system, namely placing all of the hostnames used to deliver viruses in a HOSTS file. As has been pointed out, the system can easily be bypassed either through the use of dynamically generated hostnames and wildcard DNS, or even more simply, and even more obviously, by using IP addresses, neither of which HOSTS can bypass. Add that to the lead time required to identify a new "evil" site and get it into HOSTS files for all users, and it's fairly obvious that not only is the method flawed, but anyone proposing it as a solution is either a certifiable idiot, or is being deliberately disingenuous.

My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies, who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware.

Here's the billion dollar question: will you respond to these points? Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it, or else withdraw your claims about it as a virus-protection system, or will you continue to stonewall, demanding to hear people's educational history, employers, applications (which in my case are stuff you'd never have heard of anyway, unless you work for one of several major automotive concerns, and then only if you work in particular departments, so why would I bother telling you them?) we've written, and other crap that has nothing to do with matters at hand?

People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument. They especially see through ad-hominem arguments based upon nothing at all, which is what you have.

But of course you're not going to answer, are you? You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications or bizarre rants about how great you are. And meanwhile, people will ask themselves about IP addresses and wildcard DNS entries, and see your lack of a response as yet more proof that you're full of it.

"Will you explain why you think HOSTS is an adequate solution given the above OBVIOUS statements debunking it" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Uhm, illiterate one? APK's security guide espouses a lot more than the use of a HOSTS file only. You're not only stupid, but you have "fixated yourself" on 1 portion of this only. His security guide here: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=79c7b230a57544836234fc76bec0634f&showtopic=89123 Works based on the concept of "layered security" moron. Learn to READ, because it's ALL UP THERE IN THAT URL (one of many like it).

"My guess? You honestly think that people will delay giving their money to real anti-virus companies" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Oh, you mean the "real antivirus companies" who have flaws in their wares like this one that showed up today and this week earlier too, so they are ABSOLUTELY CURRENT evidences thereof? See here: Critical Flaw Found In Virtually All AV Software http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/05/09/1343239/Critical-Flaw-Found-In-Virtually-All-AV-Software Hmmmm? You mean the SAME antivirus companies that have also called others like Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares or Nir Sofer of NirSoft's wares as malware too, as CA has for APK's single ware (of many he has made)??

"who you're pissed at for identifying your tools as crapware and components of malware." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

OR, how about this "real antivirus company" that blew up a bunch of computers by falsely identifying a valid Windows program (part of windows itself no less) as a virus: McAfee To Pay For PC Repairs After Patch Fiasco: http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/04/26/1338222/McAfee-To-Pay-For-PC-Repairs-After-Patch-Fiasco Hmmm?? They identified a malware alright, lmao: A critical piece of Windows itself? Give us a break. (LMAO! Your "LOGIC"?? Blows, and falls apart in the light of easily verified documented FACTS and ones right from slashdot article on this website too, no less!)

"People can see through ad-hominem arguments, indeed, that's why there's a name for that kind of argument." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

They surely can, and they can see through your illiterate mistakes too, shown in my last paragraph above in reply, lol! Also, I am not the one calling names, you and yours are, but it is hilarious to produce facts from actual articles from this very website to make you "eat your words" (your words, from an unqualified "wannabe expert" in computers, with no degree to his name like you? LOL, don't make me laugh!)

"But of course you're not going to answer, are you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

LOL, I answered SO WELL, that you're shown to be a skimming idiot or illiterate fool that spouts incorrect data or erroneous data that "suits his weak arguments" but falls apart fast in the light of actual data in quoted articles as I have produced now. Your "mere words" versus mine backed by actual articles and facts? Good luck dolt, lol!

"You're just going to reply to this with a demand for more lists of qualifications" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Which you don't have, obviously (qualifications), lol!

"or bizarre rants about how great you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Great enough to where your puny moderators here have to try to "snuff" my ability to post? Why is THAT happening, hmmm?? Because you KNOW you're all on the ropes and have to try to stop me from making you look even more stupid than you are is why, obviv APK's greater than you are obviously. He has done numerous things you never have or will, while you were in diapers no doubt. Inclusive of degrees in Computer Sciences and having commercial code in programs to his credit and numerous citings of he doing great work in the shareware/freeware/open source segment also, where a lazy ne'er do well like you has ZERO, and you always will (or you would have done the same by now).

"Logic doesn't work that way I'm afraid." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Have you even taken a course in logic? Answer that.

"Not answering a personal question you have no right to ask that's ludicrous on the face of it doesn't mean the answer is "No", and further, an absolutely huge portion of this industry is comprised of people who program and who don't have degrees." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

In other words, you do NOT have a degree in the computer sciences, and I was correct on that much.

"What you've implied, repeatedly, is that nobody has the right to comment on your "achievements" unless we've done something similar." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Until you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes? Absolutely. You never have and you never will, lol, that much IS obvious.

"Your achievements are writing crapware, including software classified, for several years, as malware by the malware community" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Do you mean the "malware community" in antivirus companies that LIBEL THEIR COMPETITION? ---- SYMANTEC LIBELS SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY: http://www.malwarehelp.org/news/article-2139.html "With a second false accusation this year, and no valid explanation given, we can only assume that libel is Symantec's way of trying to force anti-spyware competition out of the market." ---- As far as 'crapware'? The day you can do all of this, yourself, from as long ago up to today presently: ---- Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61 (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement). WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there) PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again! Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only... Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3 ---- Then, you can just BEGIN to talk. Of course, all you do, is talk. When you are asked to show you've done anything like the above?? You run. When asked to show you have actual degrees in the art and science of computing??? Again, you run. LMAO! You're no expert. Far from it. Also: You mean that apk wrote an app that passes every question of the 21 given by Computer Associates for removing his app on their site, and yet, they do not? Give us a break.' He's also written software that is part of a commercial suite for enterprise class applications moron, or can't you read? Apparently not. Have you done work that has gone to Microsoft's Tech Ed, 2 yrs. in a row no less as a finalist in its hardest category (SQL Server Performance Enhancement)? APK has, years ago, while you were still in diapers, lol! You sure talk a lot, but when it comes to producing proofs of your having done the same as apk has, you run or double talk evade it, lol, every time.

"and writing a guide to system protection based upon a ludicrous, stupid, and demonstrably useless "anti-virus" system, namely placing all of the hostnames used to deliver viruses in a HOSTS file." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

That shows users via their testimonials not showing up any virus infestations for over 3 year straight for those that applied his guide IN FULL, and to those that only applied the HOSTS file, they showed radically reduced infection (Kings Joker from the quoted testimonials showed 200 or more viruses a month, after using the HOSTS file apk supplied he is down to 2, and only MAYBE 2, a month tops (if that)). As has been pointed out, the system can easily be bypassed either through the use of dynamically generated hostnames and wildcard DNS, or even more simply, and even more obviously, by using IP addresses, neither of which HOSTS can bypass." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

You obviously don't know very much about PC Security: Hardcoded IP addresses in malware typically doesn't occur, because they own the domain names (so, they tend to "recycle" them, leaving them be for a while, and then reinstating them on a diff. hosting provider). Using IP addresses IS an option for them, but once they are discovered, blocked, or even shut down at their hosting provider's location? They're done and gone. The point of using IP addresses 'hardcoded' into a malware is moot, and short term at best. In other words, not worth it. Not when you can use/reuse a domain name over and over again. OF course, there is also always the proof of the results that users of APK's guide for security-hardening Windows get, here those are again for YOUR reference: PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF ITS EFFICACY? Ok, below: ---- http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=80bbbffc22d358de6b01b8450d596746&showtopic=89123&st=60&start=60 "the use of the hosts file has worked for me in many ways. for one it stops ad banners, it helps speed up your computer as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you on a 400 hertz computer and i run with ease. i do not get 200++ viruses and spy ware a month as i use to. now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then you will be safe and should not get any viruses or spy ware, but if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight APK." - Kings Joker, user of my guide @ THE PLANET AND http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2 "I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral AND "APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral AND http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3 "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral ----

"Add that to the lead time required to identify a new "evil" site and get it into HOSTS files for all users, and it's fairly obvious that not only is the method flawed, but anyone proposing it as a solution is either a certifiable idiot, or is being deliberately disingenuous." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, @10:35PM (#32151184)

Really? See the above testimonials, lol, and eat your words (you, the no degrees in computer sciences mere "wannabe", talking out his ass, lol!). His guide seems to be doing people right, where your b.s. is only that, b.s. with no backing behind it, and you also failed to realize apk's guide covers a lot more than just the HOSTS file. It espouses the use of many things, for the concept of "layered security". Go away now troll - you've been dispatched by facts, not mere unsubstantiated b.s. that you use, along with libel and name calling. If you think this is APK then you are full of SH** and you should check to see who you are talking about. so if you try to block all of my posts like the other one that are here then every thing i have heard about the moderators is true and all of the Slashdot moderators is nothing but a bunch of losers that can not handle the truth, and if you think taking my account and destroying kingersjokwers was going to stop me from posting the facts then you are out of your mind. Besides i run windows 2000 with out patches. i use a hosts file and i might get one or two viruses if that at all. when i get a viruses it is because of where i go and what i download and nothing else. if i am such an idiot then why is my system not getting attacked with viruses like when i use patches with anti viruses and spy ware programs and with out a hosts file. i will tell you why it is because i use a hosts file. the reason i am running with out patches is because i am doing a experiment to see how good the hosts file works, and it is working really well as of to day 5-10-2010 i have no viruses as been for the past 8 months as per spy bot and Norton as fully updated. so in closing to me you Slashdot moderators are nothing but a bunch of losers that act like drug dealers that want people to keep coming back for your programs that does not work as well as you claim, and all you do is block people for telling the truth.

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