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Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score -1) 308

by jythie (#47418563) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service
She is going after both.

If we are going for the car metaphor, it would be closer to suing a bar owner for allowing an obviously intoxicated driver get in their car while having a bit advertising their bar as the place to go if you want to avoid cops knowing you are driving drunk.

Ford is neutral, Tor less so since its advocates make a big deal about how well it hides what you are doing from law enforcement and tracing.

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score -1, Troll) 308

by jythie (#47418489) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

Nobody's "giving a free pass" to the revenge porn site. We're just not talking about it, because the revenge porn people, in this particular case, aren't the ones making a public ass of themselves. "This woman" is, and thus, shall be the subject of our collective ridicule.

In that, hey, how sad is it that she's making herself look worse than a revenge porn site?

Read around a bit more. There are quite a few posts here that are putting all the blame on her

Yea - a law student. Who apparently doesn't actually understand the law. Again, not helping her own case here, both literally and metaphorically.

No, she does not understand Tor, which is different then not understanding the law. Going after companies who seem to be aiding in crime or advertising services that make criminal activity easier or undetectable is well within the law. This is why you can go after companies that say sell devices for getting free cable.

You know, as a close relative of a victim of violent sexual assault, I take offense to your supposition that what my family member went through is exactly the same as what this woman is doing to herself. Don't bandy about the term "rape" for everything you disagree with, as it desensitizes people from the severity of that particular crime.

Ah yes, the old 'it is not as bad as rape so it is ok' argument. So how bad does something have to be before victim blaming is a problem? Threats? Groping? Harassment? Date rape? Stranger rape? Rape and murder? When is victim blaming ok because the person is not really a victim?

As someone who is also close to multiple victims of violent rape, I take offense at your attitude that anything not as bad does not count since it trivializes all other forms of crimes related to sex. Which also makes it easier to trivialize rape.

Comment: Re:I don't think she has a case against tor (Score 0) 308

by jythie (#47418381) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service
It is a no brainer for people here because we have a good background knowledge of Tor and its wider context. To someone not as familiar with that particular part of the internet (and most people are not) it is not nearly as clear cut. It is not unusual for 3rd parties to have some degree of liability when people use their services for illegal activities, esp when their publicly advertised functionality looks like it might be a 'wink and nod' for illegal stuff. For instance pawn shops that deal in stolen goods can be charged unless then keep good enough records to show they are trying to be legit. There has been rumblings of scrap yards needing to keep better records since so much metal theft has been going on. 3rd parties can also be charged with money laundering if it looks like they are knowingly making it easy for criminals to hide profits. So this really is not a no-braining for an outsider to know which category Tor fits into.

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score 0) 308

by jythie (#47418275) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service
Thing is, the suit is not listing Tor as the attacker, she is (incorrectly) treating it as conspiring with the site.

To use your analogy, it would not be like suing the shoe company, but instead, say, a social venue like a club that knowingly has rapists and when an attack happen hides it behind a curtain, then has as a public selling point that if you are going to attack someone they will make sure no one can see.

She does not have a prayer of that part of the suit working due to safe harbor and Tor's legitimate uses, it is not unheard of to successfully go after services that knowingly build a business model off hiding crimes. It is the core of things like money laundering and why scrap yards and pawn shops are supposed to keep good records on who sells them what.

Comment: Re:Why yes, we should blame the victim here (Score 1) 308

by jythie (#47418207) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service
So... why is it the people who upload and host this stuff do not have consequences? Why is it people who are actively crappy to others do not have this same mantra associated with them?

Oh yeah, freedom is for men, but women need to guard themselves and not cause trouble. Malicious acts are fine as long as you can slut shame the other person into silence.

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score -1) 308

by jythie (#47418031) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service
Which is a pity. I am seeing a lot of terrible comments lobbed at this woman and people giving a free pass to whoever obtained her images and the site for hosting them. Yeah it was stupid of her to name Tor as a defendant, but that can be explained by her simply not being part of the tech culture and thus not really aware of how things go together. Keep in mind she is only a student.

But people seem to be focusing on just that, which is pretty much just victim blaming. It is the same crap people pull on rape victims all the time, finding some way to socially punish them for trying to bring consequences for their attacker's actions.

Comment: Re:And in other news (Score 1) 139

by jythie (#47406951) Attached to: Uber Is Now Cheaper Than a New York City Taxi
On the other hand, those rules reduced the number of taxis and congestion in NYC. There is a real game theory problem here in that any one company wants as many of its own cars in the field as possible, but if every company is doing that the roads get worse then they are. Uber is not feeling this too much since they are still pretty small, but the original problem is still there. Too dense a population, not enough road, and too much individual profit to be made.

Comment: Re:Guam is in the Maldives now? (Score 3, Interesting) 175

by jythie (#47406793) Attached to: US Arrests Son of Russian MP In Maldives For Hacking
I think if nothing else this raises questions about where the arrest actually happened. Russian media, esp when high ranking party members are involved, is not exactly known for being accurate in its reporting.

Setting that aside, this does cut into the larger modern question of how to deal with cyber criminals who are based out of countries hostile to the US. There has always been the question about what to do with people who commit crimes in a country then flee to one without an extradition treaty, but increasingly we are having to deal with cases where the individual is actively committing crimes against the citizens of one country while being physically located in another.

Though that gets into some interesting and sticky territory when it comes to transnational companies and the horrors they have committed around the world... or at least it SHOULD be sticky.

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