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Comment: Re:Cry Me A River (Score 1) 479

by Archangel Michael (#47420751) Attached to: Normal Humans Effectively Excluded From Developing Software

You're right. But the problem is, loyalty is a two way street. If an employer doesn't value existing employees to pay them what the market rate is, or even reasonably close, deserve to lose them to people willing to pay for it all. If my boss hired someone to do what I do, with less skill and experience than me, for more than I make, while being unwilling to even negotiate with me on a raise .... see ya boos!

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47419885) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

As I and other have already pointed out, we are not blaming her for becoming a victim.

There's an entire thread titled "Why yes, we should blame the victim here", with the root post rated +5 Insightful. Yeah, people are blaming her.

Oh, well, and since we all know that a name is always 100% accurate and tells us everything...

Did you actually read the thread, or just the headline and thought "oh, that must support my position?" Because I read it, and some of them make a very good point regarding the context of this particular situation.

But quick, respond with a No True Slashdotter about how those are fringe elements and marginal and don't represent the views of a large portion of Slashdot.

Nah, I'll leave the strawmen and other forms of fallacious thinking to you, since you're so much better at it than I am.

Comment: Re:Hmmm ... (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47419593) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

Can you sue automakers for car crashes not caused by defect?

Yes.

Can you sue gun makers for deaths?

Yes.

Can you sue the financial industry for losses in the market?

Again, Yes.

Citation, citation, citation.

Here, I'll get one for you:

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act:

The purpose of the act is to prevent firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable for negligence when crimes have been committed with their products. However, both manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible in much the same manner that any U.S. based manufacturer of consumer products (i.e. automobiles, appliances, power tools, etc.) are held responsible

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Comment: Re:Why yes, we should blame the victim here (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47419559) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

So... why is it the people who upload and host this stuff do not have consequences?

I think that's a legitimate TOR angle, actually. In order to leverage the law you need to know where they physically are. TOR hides that, per design.

There's a case here, folks.

No there isn't.

Balaclavas hide identity, too, but you never see a clothmaker sued when someone robs a bank.

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47419183) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

Nobody's "giving a free pass" to the revenge porn site. We're just not talking about it, because the revenge porn people, in this particular case, aren't the ones making a public ass of themselves. "This woman" is, and thus, shall be the subject of our collective ridicule.

In that, hey, how sad is it that she's making herself look worse than a revenge porn site?

Read around a bit more. There are quite a few posts here that are putting all the blame on her

I've read plenty to know that even if a margin of the population here are doing that, you're still wrong to assume that's the general tone, as it appears you are doing.

Yea - a law student. Who apparently doesn't actually understand the law. Again, not helping her own case here, both literally and metaphorically.

No, she does not understand Tor, which is different then not understanding the law. Going after companies who seem to be aiding in crime or advertising services that make criminal activity easier or undetectable is well within the law. This is why you can go after companies that say sell devices for getting free cable.

She doesn't understand a thing, so she sues it. That indicates a piss-poor understanding of Western legal practices. A good law student would have done a tiny bit of research before going all sue-happy. Hell, a halfway intelligent person in general would do that. Only morons sue what they fail to understand.

You know, as a close relative of a victim of violent sexual assault, I take offense to your supposition that what my family member went through is exactly the same as what this woman is doing to herself. Don't bandy about the term "rape" for everything you disagree with, as it desensitizes people from the severity of that particular crime.

Ah yes, the old 'it is not as bad as rape so it is ok' argument.

Well, since I never said that, fuck you.

What I said is that when douchebags compare every-fucking-thing to rape, it desensitizes the public to the concept, which does harm to rape victims by marginalizing their suffering. Just because it happens to a woman doesn't make it rape, and if you disagree, go down to your local battered women shelter and ask them what they think about it. I'd recommend you wear a cup.

 

So how bad does something have to be before victim blaming is a problem?

You perceiving something one way does not make it so. As I and other have already pointed out, we are not blaming her for becoming a victim. We're blaming her for trying to resolve the situation in what is one of the most dumbass ways possible.

As someone who is also close to multiple victims of violent rape, I take offense at your attitude that anything not as bad does not count since it trivializes all other forms of crimes related to sex. Which also makes it easier to trivialize rape.

Yea, keep intentionally or ignorantly misinterpreting my words and meaning. That'll show me.

Comment: Re:Gun Argument (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47418415) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

So if they go after Tor for a service someone else provided using Tor, isn't that like going after gun manufacturers for the murders their products help commit?

Yea, kinda.

Not trying to start a flame war... I'd have a really good laugh if Texas set some legal standard for going after gun manufacturers in the US with this.

So much for not trying to start a flame war.

Anyway, the precedent is already set, at least in terms of firearms manufacturers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

Short answer, no, you can't sue them for what people do with their products.

Comment: Re:Pretty sure this won't work (Score 5, Insightful) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47418261) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

Which is a pity. I am seeing a lot of terrible comments lobbed at this woman and people giving a free pass to whoever obtained her images and the site for hosting them.

Nobody's "giving a free pass" to the revenge porn site. We're just not talking about it, because the revenge porn people, in this particular case, aren't the ones making a public ass of themselves. "This woman" is, and thus, shall be the subject of our collective ridicule.

In that, hey, how sad is it that she's making herself look worse than a revenge porn site?

Yeah it was stupid of her to name Tor as a defendant, but that can be explained by her simply not being part of the tech culture and thus not really aware of how things go together. Keep in mind she is only a student.

Yea - a law student. Who apparently doesn't actually understand the law. Again, not helping her own case here, both literally and metaphorically.

But people seem to be focusing on just that, which is pretty much just victim blaming.

No, suing Tor because "people use tor for porn" is victim blaming. This is pure mocking of stupidity and lack of common sense.

It is the same crap people pull on rape victims all the time, finding some way to socially punish them for trying to bring consequences for their attacker's actions.

You know, as a close relative of a victim of violent sexual assault, I take offense to your supposition that what my family member went through is exactly the same as what this woman is doing to herself. Don't bandy about the term "rape" for everything you disagree with, as it desensitizes people from the severity of that particular crime.

Comment: Re:Redneck roadhouse (Score 1) 267

by CanHasDIY (#47418145) Attached to: Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

Bigotry is fashionable among those who self-proclaim to be progressive.

Right? One would think that people as intellectual as "progressives" like to consider themselves would see the irony in acting like fundamentalists.

Of course, just because a person considers themselves something, doesn't necessarily make it so...

Comment: Re:Cry Me A River (Score 1) 479

by Archangel Michael (#47417363) Attached to: Normal Humans Effectively Excluded From Developing Software

You get a better job, by becoming better at your job, and either you move up, or on. This is especially true in IT, where if you stay in your job, you don't get any raises or improvements in benefits. The proven method is to change your job, work somewhere else where they will pay you more, a lot more. I just read where people who change jobs do get raises, because they leave places that do not offer wages, but offer new employees more money than the people who have been there a while.

Which is something I never considered before, and now, I'm actively seeking new employment, and will continue to do so for the rest of my career. If people don't value what they have, they will lose it. Pay me what I am worth, or the marketplace will take me away from you.

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