No, not really. Anyway, why would Cameron care about looking like a tyrant to the Scots? The Tories basically have no presence in Scotland anyway, and nothing to lose. Nevertheless, there are myriad ways he could have set up the referendum to as to make it very hard for the SNP to win; requiring a 75% vote in favour for example, or allowing Scots currently resident in England to vote - or even allowing the whole UK to vote. Why he decided to set up a referendum extremely favourable to the independence campaigners is anyone's guess.
Yeah, I won't. Otherwise then you might have to tackle Normandy, Berry, Foix, the part of the Basque region and Catalonia that are in France and wonder how you would feel if they voted to break away from your Glorieux Pays.
I live in England NOW. I'm not a complete tosser who's sold his soul to the Americans and The Daily Show and Jon Stewart.
I don't see what the beef over immigration is -- it actually works both ways. There are about 1 million Britons living in Spain right now under the same rules.
England is one of the most densely-populated countries in the world. Part of the beef over immigration is that we need to build 100,000s of new houses every year because there are more and more and more people, and some of us would actually quite like to stop before we get to the stage of sea-to-sea housing developments.
Evidence, please, that they "get screwed" on a regular basis? There was the Thatcher era, where they got hurt because anywhere that had powerful industrial unions did (not just Scotland, by any means). Apart from that, for the past few hundred years of union, Scotland seems to have done pretty damn well out of union.
Um yeah, but surely with their Washington DC overlords like every other US state? How is that any more "acceptable" than London being overlords of Scotland?
I suspect the way things might go is like this - if there's a yes vote, the complications of cleaving the UK in two will soak up all spare Parliamentary time and political capacity for the next few years and push out an EU in/out referendum by some time. By this point the English will have realised that Scotland is desperately trying to get back in and being a part of the EU is a significant bargaining tool with the new iScotland. Seeing the effects of not being in the EU first hand will change a lot of minds, especially once the serious debates start going.
Then again, Scotland by that point will probably be in such a state that they would be a net recipient from the EU - meaning that unless the rUK pulls out, their EU contributions will be going to fund an independent Scotland that recently told the rUK to go fuck itself. Sounds like the best argument yet for leaving the EU.
Tell that to Abraham Lincoln. He set the military on a bunch of US states that wanted self-determination. Or are the US schools painting Lincoln as an evil tyrant these days?
Which makes it all the more hilarious that the Scottish Greens are supporting independence. Scotland's #1 economic crutch is basically going to be "drill, baby, drill!" How exactly does that fit their agenda again...? I guess all the million and one wind turbines will make up for it.
Any voter should consider the probable situation twenty or fourty years from now, not whatever happens in a year or two.
What, you mean when they're on their deathbed? Yeah, that'll be really useful for them during the bulk of their lives.
The UK agreed to this vote.
Cameron ageed to this vote. Most UK citizens would not have. There was no good reason I can see for Cameron to have agreed to it.
And, on a more personal note: "Votez 'Oui', amis Ã©cossais ! Juste pour emmerder les Anglais !". The Auld Alliance shall rise again!
And, on another personal note, "Va te faire foutre, connard." Wait until Brittany is demanding to leave France because they have Parisiens so much. Wonder whether you'll be laughing so much then.
Firmly tongue in cheek. Of course.
What do they mean "no local banks"? There are no banks in Scotland?
Pretty much none Scottish-owned, no.
Or they have no currency all their own?
No. They use British pound sterling.
And why would leaving Great Britain curtail access to EU markets and freedom of movement?
Because they'd immediately be out of the EU and have to apply to rejoin, which would take at least several years.
Is Great Britain going to set up some sort of naval blockade around Scotland?
Could do, if they refused to pay their debts. Probably not though, as English politicians tend to be rather spineless. Wouldn't be surprised if they just gave Salmond half the British navy.
As a fellow European (Belgium, not UK) it's funny to see the arguments being used by the "better together" campaign. They are all typically the same arguments used by the rest of Europe for increased European integration
Scotland has a heck of a lot more in common with Britain than mainland Europe; linguistically, geographically, historically, and culturally, to name but a few. One union makes a lot more sense than the other.
Heh. John Oliver is about as English as George W. Bush. I wonder whether Jon Stewart would be quite so gung-ho about allowing those southern states to secede? Maybe a bit of patriotism would seep in all of a sudden...