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Comment Re:And why should this be done? (Score 1) 566

Incidentally, from what my mother tells me, I was born as an engineer as well. When I was not yet two years old, I would first look at a coin-operated ride (like a car) from below before sitting on it. When she asked me why, I apparently told her that "I had to make sure it works right" first. While I have no memories of that time, there is zero chance this was given to me by some "conditioning" by "society" or even my parents, as my mother says she has no idea where this came from. At the same time, I clearly did not have the skills to actually make sure "it works right" at that age, or the awareness I did not have the skills, but somehow I had the desire to do so and understand it anyways.

My take is the people do not come into this world as "blanks" at all, but are already complex people with mostly formed personalities. Whether this is something random, or some form of reincarnation, I cannot say for sure, but "random" seems to stretch things by a lot. Memories are clearly lost if it is reincarnation. What may stay is intuition and some preferences. If that is actually what happens, certain types of people may also have a higher chance of becoming female and others of becoming male.

Of course, many people are not particularly good at anything, so they may have personalities weak enough to be formed to a degree. But these people will never find the dedication and level of fascination with coding that is an absolute pre-requisite to ever be good at it.

What we have achieved as society is that people that fall a bit besides the norm have a good chance to get to do what they want and are good at anyways. That is what matters. Coercing/tricking/convincing more girls to go into coding seems to run counter to that freedom and hence would not be a good thing to do.

Comment And why should this be done? (Score 4, Insightful) 566

Obviously, all women that want to be coders and have the aptitude to be good ones have a more than good shot at becoming coders. That is what matters. As most women do not want to be coders (just like most men, incidentally, the tiny reminder is just larger for men), "getting more women into coding" sound like trying to trick or coerce people into doing things they do not want and what they have no reasonable aptitude for. That never has a good outcome.


Getting More Women Coders Into Open Source 566

Nerval's Lobster writes: Diversity remains an issue in tech firms across the nation, with executives and project managers publicly upset over a lack of women in engineering and programming roles. While all that's happening on the corporate side, a handful of people and groups are trying to get more women involved in the open source community, like Women of OpenStack, Outreachy (which is geared toward people from underrepresented groups in free software), and others. How much effort should be expended to facilitate diversity among programmers? Can anything be done to shift the demographics, considering the issues that even large, coordinated companies have with altering the collective mix of their employees?

Comment Re:for those wondering about the deepthroating (Score 1) 633

Indeed. And if his stance is ever compromised, Linux will effectively be closed commercial trash within 5...10 years.

At the moment I can still rip out abominations like systemd and build installation without the fragile udev. I can run what I chose. This will go away if commercial and military/industrial interests get too much influence.

Comment Re:for those wondering about the deepthroating (Score 1) 633

Having read this, I agree that it is really stupid. For one thing, it is far too complicated and far too fragile. And for another it is bowing to pressure by MS to only have things work _their_ way. Not good at all. I rather have to be a bit more careful in mainboard selection in order to buy ones where _I_ can add signing keys or disable secure boot entirely.

Incidentally, "secure" boot is not all that secure. It mainly serves to lock you out of your machine and implement DRM.

Comment Re:securelevel who? (Score 1) 633

SELinux is not dependent on obscure crypto-constants. It would be very hard to place backdoors in it.

As to "complicated mess", yes, that may be true, but configuring mandatory access control right is something only for advanced levels. So the actual syntax matters not that much, what matters is what it can do. It is a bit like coding: Beginners care very much about the syntax of a language, experienced experts only care what it can do, syntax is secondary.

"Now this is a totally brain damaged algorithm. Gag me with a smurfette." -- P. Buhr, Computer Science 354