First, the countries economy depends on its citizens having jobs. If you, instead, give those jobs to non-citizens, then you hurting the economy.
You write this crap and you get modded "insightful"? Jesus wept! How is money earned here, spent here and taxed here different depending on the nationality of the person doing the earning/spending/taxpaying?
Most people here on H1B's send a large amount of their salary back home. That means that the money paid to them is leaving our economy, and instead propping up other economies.
What is the basis of this claim? Given the current exchange rate (i.e. the dollar is worthless) I have my doubts about that.
I have no problem with immigrants getting jobs, because immigrants are here permanently. H1B's are temporary visas, with no intention of becoming permanent citizens (although many do find ways to convert).
What are you waffling about? Our company is full of H1B people who are all on the road to citizenship. If you want to discourage them from staying here, then keep up the anti-immigrant xenophobic rhetoric.
We don't have enough jobs for all our IT workers as it is, we don't need to be importing more unless there isn't anyone here that can fill the role.
Right. Our company used to hire graduates from American colleges. They'd take three days to do something a European graduate could do in a few hours. Fix the education system and become competitive with the rest of the world. That'd be a better approach than lowering the bar for your own people and raising it for others.
Forgive me, but I dont really understand why people in this country deserve jobs more than people in another country, particularly if theyre more skilled or asking for less money.
You know why members of Congress are called Representatives?
Because they're supposed to represent us. They are supposed to stand up for our interests. Not because Americans are somehow cosmically more worthy than non-Americans, but because it's our fucking country and it is supposed to be run for the benefit of "ourselves and our posterity."
If Indians want good stuff then they have their own democratically elected government to go to. I expect the Indian government to put the interests of Indians over the interests of Americans, but likewise I expect the U.S. government to put the interests of Americans over the interests of foreigners.
This is the kind of short-sighted protectionist attitude that ultimately set up the conditions for two world wars.
If we listened to hysterical nativists lamenting the influx of the brightest and the best from around the world, Elon Musk would never have come to the USA to start PayPal, Tesla and the other cool stuff he's working on. He seems to be adding plenty of value and generating plenty of jobs for Americans. Plenty of other immigrants have similar stories. Hell, the company I work for was started by an immigrant and it employs hundreds of people in the US and around the world. But hey, if you think that the only good job creator is an American job creator then knock yourself out.
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To put things into perspective: over the last twenty years, there have been fewer than 200 fatalities in school shootings (including colleges and universities) in the United States. By way of comparison, during that period in the US there have been about 1000 deaths due to lightning strikes, 25 due to (unprovoked) shark attacks, 3000 due to international terrorism, and 200 due to domestic terrorism. So we really ought to be more concerned about lightning and box cutters than about handguns.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Is there nothing that will wake you wankers up to the reality that guns are a bit of a problem in America?
guy blew up a school over taxes.. no guns
169 killed..no guns
3000 killed.. no guns..
Yep.. some more laws will make us safe!!
They didn't use nukes either. Might as well let everyone have nukes then.
I can go into a store today and buy everything needed to blow a building to bits. Remember Oklahoma City? If you don't want a big boom, you can always go the bleach and ammonia route. If you want to kill or maim people in mass quantities, you don't need a gun. You can use a car. Or a plane. I suppose banning planes is next?
Commercial airliners aren't designed to kill people.
More guns will solve the problem!
Fewer guns will solve the problem!
When, in reality, each has it's own set of problems, and both sides are more interested in the idea of being right, and having things a certain way, than what is actually best.
Get the fuck over yourselves, people are hurt and you are using it to fucking proselytize. Enough playing devils advocate to a lot of this shit, pointing towards a more moderate view. You're all a bunch of arrogant bastards who don't give a damn who the fuck gets hurt, so long as you can twist it towards your pathetic agenda.
What's so "pathetic" about an agenda that seeks to end this sort of thing once and for all?
Gun laws are an oxymoron. Criminals, by definition, do not abide by the laws. So it is only the good people that do not have guns in gun free zones. I do have strong feelings about gun laws but I do not think that this is the time to air them.
My thoughts are with those unfortunate parents whose grief must be too hard for anyone to bear
Oh it's never the right time to talk about gun control, is it? At least that's what gun nuts like you have brainwashed the rest of the population into thinking.
You know, from a certain point of view, you might be right that it's not the right time. Not because it's too soon, but because it's too late.
I think your proclaimed sympathy for the victims would be a bit more convincing if you didn't trot out the usual NRA talking points in an attempt to shut down all discussion about gun control after the latest school massacre.
Are school massacres a semi regular event in any other country in the developed world? No.
But the 2nd doesn't apply... it's a "Gun Free Zone". Isn't this what you wanted?
You are the most despicable piece of crap ever to post on
Fuck you. Fuck you to high heaven.
It looks like the first few comments have already been about guns and the second amendment, so I want to throw this out there. There have been spree killings all over the world, even in countries with more restrictive gun laws than the USA. Most of these killings were done with firearms, but many were done with other weapons.
I think that rather than arguing about gun-rights in general, we would be better served by working to identify the kind of people that feel they need to resort to this type of violence and getting them the help they need before they snap.
America is the only country in the developed world where school massacres are a semi-regular event. You people really should shut the fuck up with your diversion of the blame away from where it squarely belongs, at the culture of gun ownership and denial that guns are a problem.
Banning stuff is easy. It's utterly ineffective at solving the initial problem
Then why, pray tell, is America the only country in the developed world where children being massacred in their classrooms by lunatics with firearms is a semi-regular occurrence?
our country makes it too easy to become a nutcase.
this is a social problem. blaming what tool you use to act out is not helpful.
what would be helpful is finding out why so many americans are stressed out and going crazy on the population. I think we should look at why our society is freaking out. the tool the crazies use is NOT the issue!
we have a culture of anger. that's a place to start looking for solutions.
Fuck off. Guns are designed to kill people and they make it a whole lot easier to do so. What is it going to take to make you fucking yanks wake up and smell the coffee? The rest of the civilized world is looking on in complete and utter bafflement as to why you're still living in this little dreamworld where guns are not a problem. FFS they have mentally ill people in Europe too, but America is the only place in the civilized world where you can expect children to be massacred in their classrooms on a regular basis.
Guns are a problem.
Guns are a problem.
Guns are a problem.
Fact. What is it going to take to get this into your thick skulls?
Stop denying it. Stop fucking denying it!!!!
I agree, lets go the Switzerland route and actually require able bodied individuals to own and be trained in firearms. That way, the US too can have one of the lowest firearm crime rates in the world.
Oh, you meant the other direction, didn't you? Right, because the illegality of gun ownership is going to stop someone who walks into an elementary school and opens fire on kids. Dude will be totally scared of breaking that law, right? I mean, the war on drugs worked so well at stopping people from getting drugs...
No, I think he meant bringing the USA up to date with the rest of the civilized world where it's not acceptable that children should be massacred in their schools on a semi regular basis, where gun control laws actually control guns, and where (gasp) gun crime is nowhere near as prolific as in America.
You know what? On a day like this, I think this is a really good time for the "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and the "gun laws don't work" crowd to finally shut the fuck up.