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Comment Re:Nobody to blame but yourself...? (Score 1) 82

but waddaya expect?!

retarded reasoning.

you left your bicycle on your porch without a lock, whaddya expect?
you walked down a dark street at night, whaddya expect?
you left your car unlocked and your wallet on the seat, whaddya expect?
you set down your backpack containing a laptop in the seat next to you on the train and turned your head, whaddya expect?
you threw out some paperwork that listed your social security number and other personal information, whaddya expect? ...

see where that goes? enjoy your uptopia where making a mistake a mistake completely removes your protection under the law.

Comment Re:Try searching for Chris Lamberts IP address (Score 1) 82

Accessing Github is crime?

no, but using the information found there for cyber warfare against your competition is.

Chris Lambert has been revealed by Uber's investigations to be associated with the accessing of a security key that was accidentally deposited on GitHub in 2014 and used to access 50,000 database records of Uber drivers later that year.

or maybe you are suggesting the "you made it easy for me to commit the crime" defense? like, you left your bike unlocked, therefore it's mine for the taking?

Comment Re:How long will the company stay up? (Score 1) 494

dude, no one knows what the hell you are saying. you are right, it's definitely unclear how much of a deterrent punishment provides, but i can say one thing for sure, having ZERO punishment provides ZERO deterrent.

i could couldn't care less anyway. if someone does a crime, they should do the time. whether the motivation is deterrence, "justice", revenge, monetary compensation, or whatever. it's called being accountable for your actions. it's something we teach our kids, and it's a pretty good standard.

Comment Re:How long will the company stay up? (Score 2) 494

really, WTF are you saying? corporations should be able to cheat the system for as long as they can hide it, and when found out, their only punishment is that they need to find a new way to cheat?

everyone gets what you are saying about the economic ramifications, but simply letting them get away with it isn't something that society should let happen. there's a greater good to be had beyond the immediate hardships to VW stockholders and employees. you nip this on the bud, and show to VW and the greater industry that cheating doesn't pay. and yes, corporations do respond to fines. they exist to maximize profits and they simply won't participate in cheating if it doesn't maximize their profits.

Comment Re:Collateral damage (Score 1) 494

Do you honestly think McDonald's is changing anything they do based on this? How about Coke? Apple? John Deere? Bank of America?

you can count on corporations to maximize profits. if cheating is profitable, they will. and vice versa. the *only* way to keep them from cheating is to make it not profitable, and that means fining them disproportionately to the profits gained from the act.

Comment Re:How long will the company stay up? (Score 1) 494

Why? Because the people who profited from this don't care if the company is fined into nothing in 5 years, they got theirs today.

of course they care. the people that profited are shareholders / investors that unless participating in insider trading still owned their stock when it plunged. at this point tough decision as to whether to hold on and hope for a comeback or just dump it. either way, not good for them.

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