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Comment: Re:What is the point of these articles? (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916765) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

You're confusion about what was actually predicted, doesnt make it reality.

The prediction are, and have been, that:
-Artcic sea ice will decrease (it is)
-Antarctic sea ice will increase (it is)
-Antarctic land ice will decrease (it is)

The two antarctica ones are linked. Which if you read the article, you owuld understand.

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916745) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

Who mods this garbage insightful?

1) It's not "completely" covered in ice.

2) You're misquoting Gore. The full statement he made is:
"Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years. Seven years from now."

You and Mi, if you're not the same person, are two of the biggest liars and misinformers on this subject on this site.

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916709) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

Fox news... ...one of the biggest climate misinformers and climate misquoters and "simply doesnt know what they are talking about concerning...anything"... ...is your source....

Ya.....nope. At best, in court, it would be hearsay. As in "my friend said that jonny said that beth said..."

Here's what actual science has to say on the subject:
http://www.skepticalscience.co...
http://www.skepticalscience.co...

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916663) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

wow are you an idiot.

Arctic ice has long been predicted to decrease. And it has been. We've already covered how you are wrong about it "increasing". It's not. YOu're wrong.

Antarctic SEA ice has long been predicted to increase. And it has been.
Antacrtic LAND ice has long been predicted to decrease. And it has been.
The two are connected.

The predictions HAVE BEEN materializing.
You have yet to post anything approaching a factual statement.
Your continued posts on the subject only serve to further expose your ignorance of the subject.

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916611) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

furthermore, here's images to illusrate how bad the arctic polar ice situation is. Just 10 years ago the arctic ocean was not navigable except by specially built boats (ie: icebreakers), even in summer/fall (minimum is reached ~September). Now it is. So again, Mi: nothing you say is correct or factual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-co...

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916575) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

Mod this joker down. he is neither insightful, nor correct, and he deliberately misquotes in order to create false impressions.

To Mi:
You are wrong on all counts.
And the morphing is being done by you.

One:
The relevant passage in his speech, that is to say, THE FULL ACTUAL QUOTE, which you so thoughtfully left out in order to misconstrue what he said, is:

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years. Seven years from now.

Emphasis added to show the oh so important part you left out.
http://www.truth-out.org/opini...
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobe...

Two:
It's only recovering if you ignore the past 3 decades of observation in order to focus on the past 2 years. The trend is down down down. 2012 was the lowest EVER RECORDED. So low it broke all records and even went beyond standard statistical deviation expectations. The last two years were more ice than 2012, but so was EVERY YEAR EVER RECORDED. That's what happens when you set a new record low. Make no mistake: The past 2 years of ice coverage have still be below average, and the trend is still down. It is NOT recovering, it is NOT increasing.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad...

Three:
Oh hey, you tossed in Solyndra too (Drink!). Do we really REALLY need to cover how Slyndra is just another dogwhistle distraction from the facts? How Solyndra and its ilk represented not even 3% of all monies loaned out by the DOE? How the other 97% have not onlyy been successful, but the Government has actually earned a profit, such that over the course of the program it was made more money that it loaded out? How the government earned a return on its investment and success rate unseen and generally unheard of in the private venture capiltal world? How Solyndra's, and other solar panel startups, failing was not due to their own mistakes, not due to any scam or con, but due to the fact China's panel amkers are heaviliy subsidized and undercut the international market? Or how some of the companies who initially failed, are now getting up and back on their feet again?

Bringing up Solyndra is akin to saying "global warming can't be real because it's cold outside".
It's that kind of ignorance and posturing. It's that kind of denial of, or ignoring of, reality.

Thank you for playing, but your lies and half truths have no place here.
Go away.

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916515) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

You are wrong on all counts.

One: he never said it. The relevant passage in his speech, which you so thoughtfully left out in order to misconstrue what he said, is:

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years. Seven years from now.

http://www.truth-out.org/opini...
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobe...

Two: It's only recovering if you ignore the past 3 decades of observation in order to focus on the past 2 years. The trend is down down down. 2012 was the lowest EVER RECORDED. So low it broke all records and even went beyond standard statistical deviation expectations. The last two years were more ice than 2012, but so was EVERY YEAR EVER RECORDED. That's what happens when you set a new record low. Make no mistake: The past 2 years of ice coverage have still be below average, and the trend is still down. It is NOT recovering, it is NOT increasing.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad...

Thank you for playing, but your lies and half truths have no place here.

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916265) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

they do not because their more concerned with actual sitting emmbers of congress, on the science committees, who say things like "god wont let the planet cook" and "CO2 is harmless".

if a non scientist is generally right, but wrong on specifics, or overstates, but is still generally on the right side of the debate, they might be excused for ignoring hm to focus on the non-scientists who put their fingers in their ears and go "lalallalalaitsnothappening".

Comment: Re:It's getting hotter still! (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916247) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

Name em. cause otherwise its still just hte same garbage you always spout.
What markets? Green energy industry? That market already exists.
What profit motive? Seriously...what? He's already rich.

While he was an important and successful politician before, these days he's more involved in charity work and activism. His influence is nothing compared to the current sitting members of congress.

Comment: Re:Some thoughts (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916223) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

ahh, but the mass of sea water is increasing due ot melt run-off from the land ice.
(not arguing, just pointing out)

in fact, just last week (?) we had the posting about how sea levels in the antarctic region were local higher (by ~2mm...which is a lot if you consider the volume over such a large area) due to the incomplete mixing of the fresh water run off and ocean water.

Comment: Re:Please See: (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916207) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

really?

here's a test: if it can be absorbed by the system, the concentration in the atmosphere should remain relatively stable, and not show an increase.
observation: levels have increased continuously, from 280ppm to 400+ppm, and show no signs of slowing down.
conclusion: it cannot be absorbed by the system. if an equilibrium factor is building, it has yet to catch up to the rate of production of CO2.

and of course, you spout more the nonsense garbage about "no one understands the system" (yes, they do), "the models are wrong" (no, they arent), and "harming everyone" (baseless assumption). in short: youre post contained a lot of words, but contained nothing of importance, insight, or value. good day.

Comment: Re:Please See: (Score 1) 516

by dywolf (#47916181) Attached to: Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

miniscule?
miniscule?!

The level of average CO2 has risen from approximately 280ppm to 400+. That's almost a 50% increase. In the entire atmosphere.
Do you have any idea just how large a volume that is???
Yearly human activity puts out over 40 BILLION tons of the stuff.
40 billion tons is the same weight as 100,000 aircraft carriers.
And we put out that much of a GAS yearly.

Make no mistake: the only one making an error here is you. He presented the very essence of a scientific argument, with testable observations (that have been made and done over and over again). Ever heard of a positive feedback loop? If everything is in equilibrium, fine and dandy. But increase one factor, like say increasing CO2 by 50%, and you trigger a series of events. One of which is: it gets warmer -> leading to mroe water vapor in the air -> trapping more heat -> it gets warmer -> leading to mroe water vapor in the air -> trapping more heat -> it gets warmer -> leading to mroe water vapor in the air -> trapping more heat -> it gets warmer -> leading to mroe water vapor in the air -> trapping more heat -> it gets warmer -> .....

Get the idea? Edumicate thyself: http://www.skepticalscience.co...
Just because water vapor is common in the atmosphere doesnt mean that CO2 can be ignored. Toe ven posite such a thing proves your own ginorance of the system.

Australia

NSW Police Named as FinFisher Spyware Users 50

Posted by samzenpus
from the oh-watching-the-places-you'll-go dept.
Bismillah writes Wikileaks' latest release of documents shows that the Australian New South Wales police force has spent millions on licenses for the FinFisher set of law enforcement spy- and malware tools — and still has active licenses. What it uses FinFisher, which has been deployed against dissidents by oppressive regimes, for is yet to be revealed. NSW Police spokesperson John Thompson said it would not be appropriate to comment "given this technology relates to operational capability".

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