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Comment: Re:Ethics? (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48640909) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

Don't try to blow this off as some kind of SJWer bullshit. I believe those people actually exist, but I don't believe as many of the people you think are that are in fact that. I think gamergate is bullshit, and I have had passionate argument about how the name "feminist" is sexist and had to personally field the arguments about how it's not sexism if you're on the more oppressed side. Well, I could see how that could seem true if one doesn't own a dictionary... but let's face it, 1) the core claims of Gamergate have now been shown to be overblown at best, 2) there is no public evidence that any of the claims of harassment or threat at question were fabricated, only speculation, and 3) gaming journalism has long been corrupt, and even if all the initial claims were true, this would have been a minor example. So, being prepared to have a massive fight about it (even putting the discussion of threats and harassment aside for the moment) is fairly pathetic.

Do you really find it hard to believe that these death threats are genuine? I don't mean to imply that they are genuine in the sense that they will be acted upon, but that's not actually necessary for them to be an attack, is it? In fact, depending on where you live, it often is not. It's not okay to tell people that you're going to kill them if you could carry out the threat, because of the real psychological impact that has. We don't want a society of fight or flight. Being able to relax once in a while is, in fact, one of the primary goals of civilization.

Comment: Re:Ethics? (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48640901) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

Having a game of Civilizations where the best way to achieve victory is through scientific exploration IS a political statement.

The best way to achieve victory in Civ is to crush your nearest neighbors early in the game, and expand into their territory. That's true whether you're pursuing the scientific game (either for eventual economic or space victory) or the military conquest victory.

Comment: Re:Ethics? (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48640893) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

There's no reason why, for example, her boyfriend at Kotaku couldn't raise his hand at a meeting and say, "Hey, how about this game Depression Quest that my girlfriend made? I think someone should review that. Not me of course, because I am filled with integrity, but one of you should give her some free press."

What you're not getting is that this would be an example of relatively high integrity in the entertainment media. Most of it is much sleazier. A favor for a friend is the cornerstone of successful business. The benefits are intangible in this case, because you [allegedly] can't simply buy that kind of press from that particular outlet. But most "news" is simply something some corporation wanted published, and it often gets reprinted without meaningful comment, let alone changes. The parallel to law is, pretty frankly, disgusting.

The flip side to your argument is that nobody should ever say anything nice about someone they're screwing if they are a media personality, right? But since the internets have made sure that everyone knows who you were inside last night if you are even remotely worth trolling, we all have plenty of disclosure anyway.

That this moment is the "gate" of gaming journalism is deeply embarrassing, and what's more, it has guaranteed that gaming journalism is going to go through another era of embarrassing corruption — not the kind where someone helps a friend, but the kind where review scores are just made-up bullshit. This is what tells us that Gamergate is in fact simple petulance. There has never been integrity in gaming journalism, and you guys (yeah, you've found a handful of women to ally themselves with your "cause", congrats) are upset now because some sex was involved. Usually, it's just the typical ho-hum giving games a free pass in the form of undeservedly high review scores so that more free review copies will show up, which has led directly to the generally pathetic state of new game releases where they don't work for large numbers of subscribers until a patch cycle has passed and so on. The reviewers give a free pass to poor quality and we all "suffer", at the first world level anyway in this case. That's not to say that nobody should be incensed about the lack of ethics in gaming journalism, only that even if all the gamergater claims were true this would still not be the most egregious example of its lack going on right now. You would still have, for example, the entire mainstream gaming press. And by the way, the reason they're not sounding off on this whole rant? They're happy that you guys are distracting the people's gaze away from them, and clouding the whole issue of journalistic integrity with this nonsense non-story. Indeed, if the mass media et al have noticed this flap at all, they must be breathing a sigh of relief that calls for journalistic integrity at the grassroots level are currently being linked with sexism — due to some sexism.

Comment: Re:did you see that piece (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632609) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

After all that has happened it's almost disingenuous to point out that the review never happened, like a "white nationalist" pointing out minor arguments over how many thousands of Jews died in a particular camp.

Hmm, evasion, godwin... BINGO! Man, this thread has been pay dirt.

It's true that review never happened but a good deal of favoritism did.

Welcome to commercial journalism! Boy, have you ever picked the wrong place to make your stand.

Comment: Re:did you see that piece (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632603) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

the journalist does implicitly make a commitment towards their readers to perform their job with a certain level of professionalism and adherence to good journalistic practices

And that level is very, very low. Pretty much all sites inflate scores so that they will continue to receive review copies. As you say, whether genitals are involved is totally irrelevant. It's beyond hypocrisy to make this moment the stand against the lack of integrity in games journalism when there has never been any to begin with. Games journalism was born at a time when journalism in general had already become grossly commercial, and it set out to emulate it as closely as possible. The games magazines followed the format of the sports magazines, which were already about selling you shit. It would be shocking if it had not come out to be horribly corrupt.

The fact that sex was the tipping point proves just how pathetic the gamergaters are. If they could get laid, they'd be less jealous. They should spend less time hating, and more time hustling.

Comment: Re:Ethics? (Score 2) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632595) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

Its about corruption, about members of the gaming press having relations, both physical AND financial, with game developers they were promoting,

We already found out that this was a non-story, so why are you repeating it? zzzzzzz

When the news came out? THIRTEEN gaming sites issued THE EXACT SAME STORY about how they didn't need gamers and that gamers were "dead".

So you're offering as evidence your lack of understanding of how "news" works today? I guess you haven't heard of a wire service, either. Hint: It's how news is made.

Its REALLY simple folks,

Some people are making mountains out of molehills.

Comment: Re:Old news (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632581) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

The FBI has also stated that some people named as hacking victims had in-fact hacked themselves. Didn't name names, but three names that come to mind are Phil Fish, Zoe Quinn and Brianna Wu.

They didn't name names, but you're completely willing to do so even though you don't know who did it, and it could have been someone on the other side completely. You are precisely the kind of person that you claim to be railing against.

Comment: Re:Wow. This whole sorry clusterfuck sucks (Score 1) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632577) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

Anti-gamergate is made up mainly of those rich middle class women who think that nerds who have been picked on their entire lives for being nerds are somehow opressing them.

[citation needed]

Gamergate is made up mostly of kids who fling slurs that would make a sailor bluch around on XBox live

They wouldn't blush or bluch, whatever that is, they would just shake their heads and wonder how those children became orphans, because surely children with parents would never behave like them.

Comment: Re:harassment attribution (Score 0) 531

by drinkypoo (#48632565) Attached to: FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

We already know several of the serious ones were false flag fakes.

Where's the evidence? We've all seen the evidence that the original basis for this whole flap was a bullshit lie, so we know that gamergate is founded on bullshit. But we haven't seen any evidence that any of the threats were false flag fakes. If you have any, provide it. If not, stop lying like the liar you are.

Comment: Re:How do you do that? (Score 1) 580

by drinkypoo (#48624561) Attached to: Top Five Theaters Won't Show "The Interview" Sony Cancels Release

You can't take down a full movie theatre with one suicide bomber, you would need several (at least one for each screen, somehow synchronized to maximize damage).

So you attend several ahead of time and plant bombs while you're there, there's loads of places in the average theater where you could hide an explosive. Then you set them off by cellphone. It's not rocket surgery. That nobody has done this already proves just how few terrists there actually are active on merican soil.

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