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Conservatives are still tripping over each other to see who can offer the greatest amount of random hyperbole to make the earlier attack on Benghazi the personal fault of President Barack "Lawnchair" Obama. Now, there is another American death in Benghazi that they should be jumping on soon. Obviously, just as President Lawnchair previously flew out there under deep cover to sack the embassy, he has now done the same to murder a teacher who was ... oh, shit. Whatever.
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President Lawnchair Waits to Be Blamed For Another Killing

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      The specific article isn't that important, the result is the same regardless. Another person is dead in Benghazi, and the GOP spin machine will soon tell us why it is the personal fault of President Lawnchair. Expect tea partiers to soon start using this as their latest call for his execution.

      • by unitron (5733)

        Execution?

        Gee, used to be just plain ol' impeachment was enough for them to get their ya-yas out with.

    • Not for me, it ain't. Enjoy!

      U.S. Teacher Gunned Down in Benghazi, Officials Say
      By SULIMAN ALI ZWAY and KAREEM FAHIM
      Published: December 5, 2013

      BENGHAZI, Libya — Unidentified men gunned down an American chemistry teacher here on Thursday morning as he jogged outside his home, according to Libyan security officials and the director of the teacher’s school.

      Friends identified the teacher as Ronnie Smith, 33, of Austin, Tex. Libyan security officials said they had yet to determine a motive for the killing, which came during a surge of assassinations and armed clashes in Benghazi.

      Mr. Smith was one of the dwindling number of Western citizens still working in Benghazi, the birthplace of the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi in 2011 and now a symbol of Libya’s growing anarchy. Over the last two years, a string of extremist attacks on diplomats and other foreigners, most notably the September 2012 killing of the American ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens, has deepened the city’s isolation.

      Assassinations of security officers or former Qaddafi officials are reported almost daily, and lawless militias, including some linked to Muslim extremists, test the government’s control. Last week, at least nine people were killed as a militia linked to the killing of Mr. Stevens, Ansar al-Shariah, battled a local military unit. On Thursday, at least three security officials were killed in Benghazi.

      Despite the danger, Mr. Smith, who had been in Benghazi for more than a year, “never thought for a moment he would be targeted,” said Adel Mansouri, the director of the International School in Benghazi, where Mr. Smith taught chemistry to secondary school students.

      After earning a master’s degree in the subject from the University of Texas, Austin, in 2006, Mr. Smith served for a time on the staff of the Austin Stone Community Church, as a teaching pastor and a deacon. He moved to Libya with his wife, Anita, and their young son to continue teaching and “to be a blessing to the Libyan people,” Dave Barrett, a pastor at the church, said in a statement. Mr. Smith’s wife and child were in Texas at the time of the attack, Mr. Barrett said.

      A man reached by telephone in Michigan who identified himself as Mr. Smith’s brother-in-law declined to comment on his death. “If you could give us a couple of days, that would be great,” said the man, who identified himself only as Jason. “We just found out about an hour ago.”

      After joining the English-language International School, Mr. Smith quickly became its most popular instructor, Mr. Mansouri said.

      One of his students, an 18-year-old woman who did not want to be identified, said Libya’s violence had left the students “in a state of depression.” Mr. Smith, she said, was “like a light.”

      “He was very supportive to us,” she said in a telephone interview. “He helped me with my university applications. After the revolution, most of us lost hope and he encouraged us.”

      When he arrived, he asked what the students did for fun and how they communicated. They did not spend much time outside because of the violence, she said, so they used Twitter. He would join them, she said, often joking as a way to inspire and motivate them.

      Mr. Smith’s Twitter feed amounted to a diary of his life in Benghazi. He called himself “Libya’s best friend.”

      Several entries voiced frustration with the city and its residents. At other times, he praised the place. “There is one thing Libyans are good at: making foreigners feel like family,” he wrote on Oct. 20.

      He also poked fun at the militants. On Oct. 24, he wrote: “Where’s Ansar al-Sharia when you need them? Someone make a call and tell them boys and girls making out here.”

      On Nov. 25, the day members of Ansar al-Shariah were driven from their base in Benghazi, Mr. Smith wrote, “More like Ansar Al-see ya!”

      On Thursday morning, Mr. Mansouri said, he was called to identify the teacher’s body, which was lying outside his house in an upscale neighborhood near the American diplomatic compound where Mr. Stevens was killed.

      The principal called an emergency meeting in the assembly hall at the school, where the students were in the middle of midterm examinations, the 18-year-old student said. At the news of Mr. Smith’s death, the room filled with screams and students collapsed.

      Mr. Mansouri said Mr. Smith had told him that he planned to stay in Libya for many years. “He felt very safe,” Mr. Mansouri said. “Is this a robbery, or terrorism? We just don’t know.”

      Suliman Ali Zway reported from Benghazi, and Kareem Fahim from Cairo. Jennifer Preston contributed reporting from New York, and Manny Fernandez from Houston.

    • by gmhowell (26755)

      BENGHAZI, Libya — Unidentified men gunned down an American chemistry teacher here on Thursday morning as he jogged outside his home, according to Libyan security officials and the director of the teacher’s school.

      Friends identified the teacher as Ronnie Smith, 33, of Austin, Tex. Libyan security officials said they had yet to determine a motive for the killing, which came during a surge of assassinations and armed clashes in Benghazi.

      Mr. Smith was one of the dwindling number of Western citizens

  • What's this got to do with his role as Commander-in-Chief?
    Was the guy in a firefight, called for backup, and left hang out to dry by #OccupyResoluteDesk?
    Is the media reaching 4k RPM trying to spin the situation to keep the truth crushed?
    Has an Ambassador been sent to the talking head shows to lie through her teeth about it?

    Just a going-in position. Got stuff to do.
    Cheers,
    Chris
    • What's this got to do with his role as Commander-in-Chief?

      What does anyone who died in Benghazi have to do with President Lawnchair being POTUS?

      Was the guy in a firefight, called for backup, and left hang out to dry by #SilliestHashtagEver?

      Wow, you are still so pissed over your conspiracy theory that you can't even use proper grammar on the matter. Bravo.

      Nonetheless, you have a lot to prove to demonstrate that anyone was "left hang out to dry". You can't even prove that there was a call to the lawnchair administration for a decision placed with adequate time for anyone to respond in a meaningful way. Furthermore, if lawnchair and company had responded

      • I can only speak for myself.

        I spent a lot of years looking for conspiracies everywhere--and seeing them.

        When I quit looking... I stopped finding them.

        I spent a lot of years thinking I was supposed to save the world.

        Now I know better, and I worry only about saving those bits of it that are actually within my ability to save. Which aren't many, but I try to do my part.

        Did I mention that I now sleep much better at night?

      • We've circled this drain a sufficient number of times. If you're correct, and I'm wrong, I'll buy you coffee.
        As far as I can tell, based upon the Administration's actions to date, I'm correct.
        I'm not confident that you, on the other hand, would be capable of admitting to what degree you've been duped, irrespective of the amount of evidence proffered.
        Perhaps a candid, unforced confession from #OccupyResoluteDesk himself would help you. Given the evidence of how well he's handled ObamaCare thus far, such d
        • Smitty, you (and a large number of other conservative conspiracy types) have convinced yourself the the total absence of any evidence that you are willing to share that somehow Obama is personally responsible for what happened. If you have any evidence, I can't see a good reason why you would not be willing to share it - which leads me to suspect you have none.

          Perhaps a candid, unforced confession from #SilliestHashtagEver himself would help you.

          If he was actually responsible for what happened, sure. But you have not provided a reason why he is personally responsible for it. You have only

          • total absence of any evidence

            This is not the case, you know it, and yet your commitment to denial cannot be shaken.

            somehow Obama is personally responsible for what happened

            He bears responsibility, as President, and owes a more honest account than a lying Ambassador sent to piss down the public back and remark about the rain. Had Bush done something like throwing Nakoula in the cooler, your howls would've deafened whole cities (hyperbole).

            But you have not provided a reason why he is personally responsible fo

            • total absence of any evidence

              This is not the case, you know it, and yet your commitment to denial cannot be shaken.

              Really? Where is the evidence? I have asked you for it repeatedly. Not once have you provided any. Not. One. Single. Time.

              Your repeated refusal to provide any evidence only supports the notion that you have none. If you have anything even slightly resembling evidence I would love to see it. I have asked you for it many, many, many times and never have you provided any.

              • Your penchant for denial would produce fresh objections, irrespective of proof proffered. A reasonable person could say that something akin to the 9/11 Commission is warranted, given the Administration's behavior, but you're operating far past reason. Dunno what I can do for you, sir.
                • Your penchant for denial would produce fresh objections, irrespective of proof proffered.

                  That is a grand assumption you are making there, based on nothing whatsoever.

                  A reasonable person could say that something akin to the 9/11 Commission is warranted, given the Administration's behavior

                  The 9/11 commission, to the best of my knowledge, never set out with the intention of overthrowing a presidential administration. You are not asking for an investigation, you are asking for an execution.

                  but you're operating far past reason

                  You are shouting endlessly for the removal of the POTUS based on a conspiracy theory. How do you see me as being the one "operating far past reason"?

                  Dunno what I can do for you, sir.

                  How about some factual data? You could convince me that there is merit to yo

                  • That is a grand assumption you are making there, based on nothing whatsoever.

                    No, September to November 2012 did occur, and we have the Administration's behavior to go on. So "nothing whatsoever" is both inaccurate and an example of the "penchant for denial" of which I speak.

                    never set out with the intention of overthrowing a presidential administration

                    Justice for the Benghazi Four is not the same thing as overthrow. Why do you H8 justice?

                    You are shouting endlessly for the removal of the POTUS based on a conspiracy theory.

                    Actually, I say many other things, e.g. "Redistribute power, not wealth".

                    How about some factual data?

                    As opposed to your non-factual data? We just have to investigate Benghazi to find out what's in it, to paraphrase the Worst Speaker Evar.
                    You're really s

                    • September to November 2012 did occur

                      Indeed time did pass. However the mere fact that time passed was not sufficient to prove your allegations.

                      and we have the Administration's behavior to go on

                      Please elaborate on how "the Administration's behavior" supports your allegations.

                      So "nothing whatsoever" is both inaccurate and an example of the "penchant for denial" of which I speak.

                      The mere passage of time in no way supports your allegations of a deliberate lie. You have been swearing up and down that the administration intentionally lied about the situation. You have been swearing up and down that evidence exists to support that notion. The mere passage of time is not evidence to support that

                    • Actually, I say many other things, e.g. "Redistribute power, not wealth".

                      Which of course, is totally illogical and absurd. You cannot separate them. Yet you obsess...

                    • Are we done talking past each other yet?
                    • You are talking past and around me. I have repeated the same unanswered request to you many times. You could just reply to my request and this silly matter wouldn't look so silly.
                    • And my request is for a grand jury. But "what difference, at this point, does it make?"
                    • Or special prosecutor.
                    • And my request is for a grand jury

                      First of all, you have at more than one time indicated that you feel the POTUS should be removed from office immediately over this. You have not previously indicated any interest in actually following through with anything resembling a trial (which is what you would have if a grand jury voted in favor).

                      That notwithstanding, a grad jury is called to evaluate whether or not enough evidence exists to proceed with prosecution of a case. Being as you have no evidence for your charges, a grand jury would hav

                    • Or special prosecutor.

                      But no blow-job occurred. Why do we need a special prosecutor? Previously you wanted to proceed directly to the gallows. I'm curious as to why suddenly you are pretending to have an interest in an orderly legal evaluation of the absence of evidence.

                    • Previously you wanted to proceed directly to the gallows.

                      Gallows. Really. I find you and Pudge's little go-rounds kind of tedious, but you're strongly justifying him. I've absolutely never advocated more than the simple justice the Benghazi Four have been heretofore denied, and which the no-talent rodeo clown adroitly evades.
                      You're false to claim I advocated proceeding to the gallows. But that's consistent with your strange incuriosity about traditional concepts of truth & justice.
                      Expecting nothing from you, I am not disappointed.

                    • I've absolutely never advocated more than the simple justice the Benghazi Four have been heretofore denied

                      That is a lie. You have repeatedly called for the president to be removed. That does nothing to provide "justice" for those four dead people. You can't bring them back from the dead by putting someone you hate on the unemployment line. Justice would involve finding the people behind the attack.

                      You're false to claim I advocated proceeding to the gallows

                      You repeatedly asked for him to be thrown out of the white house over this, without any regard for the legal system. At that point, when you are forcibly removing the president by extralegal means, you are esse

                    • I think the President should be impeached, which verb means, literally, to accuse. That implies a trial. In a properly functioning Congress, we could have this. Harry Reid in the Senate is the embodiment of justice obstructed.
                      But, then again, maybe an impeachment trial would exonerate BHO. It's possible that he's purely innocent, and a reasonable inquiry would identify the "right wing noise machine" as the true cause of our woes. It's the TSA argument: if Obama's innocent, why does he not welcome inquiries
                    • I think the President should be impeached, which verb means, literally, to accuse. That implies a trial.

                      That would be a nice change from your earlier posts where you were advocating for Obama to be removed without any mention of a trial or process. However as you previously were advocating for extralegal action, and you have latched on to at least 5 completely separate conspiracy theories about him that have lead others to advocate for the same action, it is hard to imagine that you are serious about an interest in actual due process.

                      It's possible that he's purely innocent,

                      Being as you have a grocery list of different events you want to throw hi

                    • You're making stuff up.
                    • You're making stuff up.

                      No, I'm reading what you write. I'm sorry that you can't be bothered to at least extend the same courtesy back to me. You have written previously that you want Obama out of office over Benghazi (and several of your other favorite conspiracy theories before and after September 2011). For a long time you made no mention of actually going through a trial of any sort. Now more recently you have started giving minor (written) lip service to the idea of an actual trial.

                      One problem, of course, is that imp

                    • You have written previously that you want Obama out of office over Benghazi (and several of your other favorite conspiracy theories before and after September 2011). For a long time you made no mention of actually going through a trial of any sort. Now more recently you have started giving minor (written) lip service to the idea of an actual trial.

                      You're fabricating whatever you want out of what I did not say. Which is fine. I don't expect you to deal honestly with your acts of fiction.

                    • You're fabricating whatever you want out of what I did not say.

                      Smitty you're better than that. Your responses are becoming pudge-like. If you were overtaken by emotion earlier and what you said before no longer reflects your feelings, say so. If you honestly have changed from then and now you truly want a trial and truly will respect its findings - including the possibility of no impeachment being handed down - then that is a significant change from your previous position.

                      That said, the fact that you champion no less than 5 different movements to overthrow the

                    • That said, the fact that you champion no less than 5 different movements to overthrow the president

                      Enumerate these, blowhard. In particular, where I have "champion[ed]. . .overthrow", especially if you think I've ever supported anything other than proper legal and electoral means. Calling your bluff.

                    • That said, the fact that you champion no less than 5 different movements to overthrow the president

                      Enumerate these, blowhard.

                      In an earlier comment from this very discussion [slashdot.org] you provided three different conspiracy theories under which you want to throw the president out, and indicated that you knew of others. Five is likely a generous underestimate.

                      where I have "champion[ed]. . .overthrow", especially if you think I've ever supported anything other than proper legal and electoral means

                      When you insist that the president needs to be thrown out of office without giving any regards to proper means - which you have done repeatedly - you are endorsing improper means. If you want to say that you meant to earlier call for proper investigation and trial, then say so and I

                    • Heh. Kangaroo & Associates just called from Australia. You're wanted in court, Mr. Prosecutor.
                    • Power is currently being consolidated. Defend your assertion that this is a one-way process.
                    • Power is currently being consolidated.

                      Yes, as is wealth. Inextricably linked they are. Where did I say anything about it being a "one-way process"? Wealth and power are directly proportional. x=y. It is normal.

                    • You rejected the possibility of redistributing power, instead of wealth.

                      Wealth and power are directly proportional

                      You equate wealth with money, I think, which is symptomatic of modern, degenerate thinking.

                    • No, I equate wealth with power, because that is what it is. Distributing one distributes the other. Money is just part of the equation, one of the many ways of control. And besides, nothing is being "redistributed". It's merely being shifted. There is nothing new here. And your only complaint about power only relates to who has it. You don't like the threat of becoming a "minority", do you? Feels a little different being on the wrong end of the gun, doesn't it?

                    • And besides, nothing is being "redistributed". It's merely being shifted.

                      That's a difference that doesn't make any apparent difference, as far as I can tell.

                      And your only complaint about power only relates to who has it. You don't like the threat of becoming a "minority", do you? Feels a little different being on the wrong end of the gun, doesn't it?

                      You're darn right I don't like a bunch of deadbeat old thieves hogging the ball/power/money. It's kind of hilarious that you think the Tea Party lepers are `becoming a "minority"`. When were people interested in liberty, balanced budgets, & a sane tax code NOT in the minority, exactly? However, I wish you'd walk back the "wrong end of the gun" remark. We don't need that sort of guns-pointed-at-people talk.

                    • Say whaaa? The whole system is under a gun... and the aim (so to speak) is to keep it pointed away from one's self.

                    • The new budget deal is already starting to walk back military pensions.
                      So my little pie is already set to shrink over the next 15 years, before I can even start collecting it.
                      The only way to 'win' is to blow off rely on it in any way. Which is a good prescription for the rest of this godforsaken government.
                    • The only way to 'win' is to blow off rely on it in any way. Which is a good prescription for the rest of this godforsaken government.

                      Some day you may come to realize that logic applies throughout life in the modern era (especially in the USA). There are few games in this country that you have any chance of winning, and the industrial-government complex likes to keep it that way.

                    • The only game that matters is the one between you and the Almighty.
                      If I fail to win these secular lotteries, it's chiefly because I don't play.
      • #SilliestHashtagEver

          President Lawnchair

        Tee Hee... The lack of a hashtag doesn't make you any less silly. Keep it classy babe...

        • Calling him a lawnchair - for collapsing like one under pressure - is supported by the observation that what he promised while campaigning and what he has delivered after inauguration are drastically different. If you prefer instead to claim that he was lying the entire time he was campaigning and actually intended the entire time to unleash a new kind of conservative hell upon us, then you need to find a way to support your allegation of his actions somehow reflecting on his wishes while being counter to
          • So, I guess the real story is that you choose to believe the politician when he makes promises he won't keep. He proved more than adequately that he was a team player on other actions he took before he became president. A normal person would take that as a hint, but bleary eyed hopefuls like you are what keep things as they are and the wealthiest of the wealthy in power. His wishes are best illustrated by his actions, not his words. As are yours when you vote for them. Your complaints are pure folly.. You'

            • So, I guess the real story is that you choose to believe the politician when he makes promises he won't keep.

              So then how do you vote for anyone, if you don't believe any politician to be actually interested in fulfilling their campaign promises? Or are you one of those clowns who writes in Mickey Mouse on every line in the belief that somehow that is going to accomplish something?

              And I never saw Smitty say Obama was behind Occupy Wall Street.

              Do a google search for smitty's trademark silly hash tag. It will lead you to one of his blog posts where he lays out his argument for Obama being directly behind the Occupy movement. That is the entire reason why he uses that tag, t

              • It looks like that little part about checking their voting records and any other activities to see how it jibes with what they say, no matter how many millions they spend saying it, will keep on flying over your head. As long as money remains the principal marker to the voters, it's easy to predict how things will go.

                I'm one to see more of the basic similarities than to dwell on inconsequential differences. I think you and Smitty are playing that Harpo mirror gag. You dance to the exact same tune, with the

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