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Journal: Obamacare is Not a Single-Payer Conspiracy [Bloomberg]

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Even columnists at conservative news sources are coming to realize it. This is from the same woman who wrote that Vermont's single payer aspirations would be terrible for taxpayers.

If Obamacare's insurance reforms break the market, that calculus still won't change: Most people will still have insurance they like, and they will not be willing to give it up in order to solve problems in the individual market -- which now covers about 5 percent of the population and is expected to ultimately cover something over that. Even if the individual market functionally disappears, most people will still be covered, and most politicians will be unwilling to endorse a program that takes away what they have. There is no path to single payer from even a spectacular Obamacare implosion -- for the same reason that there was no path to single payer before Obamacare was passed.


Ironically, single payer seems much more plausible if the system succeeds. One possible path along which the health-care law could develop is that more and more employers dump folks onto the exchanges, breaking the link between employment and insurance for millions of Americans. If that happens but other problems remain -- such as rising premiums -- then you can imagine a series of reforms that ultimately leads to single payer, probably starting with a public option. Employers would probably still provide supplemental health insurance as a benefit, the way some do in the U.K., but it would be a relatively cheap add-on, not a huge portion of your compensation package.

So dash your hopes and allay your fears. An Obamacare failure would be bad in many ways, and it would mean significant changes for the insurance market. But we're not getting the National Health Service anytime soon.


Journal: The clock is ticking loudly now... 3

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Conservatives are desperately grasping at a mountain of straws hoping to find one that can break Obama's back. So far they clearly have less traction than a Yugo in Crisco, but they keep trying anyways. They are not afraid to try to manufacture a controversy if it will bring them more air time, either.

However, I will point out something else they should be paying attention to at this stage. They want the POTUS out no matter the cost, but the clock is not in their favor. We are down to about 31 months to the 2016 election (where of course Obama cannot run, conspiracy theories be damned).

The last time a POTUS was forced out was of course Watergate. If we look at the timeline on that, we see that the investigation on that started February 1973. Nixon resigned the following August; roughly 18 months later.

If the government of today is so bloated and overgrown (from the standard conservative mantra) then there is no reason to expect that an investigation could bring about a resignation in less time than it did in 1972-1973. If it even took twice as long, then the clock has already ran out for the conservative dream scenario of forcing Obama out.

Not that they would let reality get in the way, though. And obviously budgets are not important when there is a president waiting to get thrown out of the white house, right?
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Journal: Sometimes, I don't even need to set a trap... 8

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... because sometimes, they'll walk into a situation that makes them look stupid on their own.

I encourage all to dive in and see just how stupid a conservative can make himself look in one discussion. I wasn't even planning to reply to his comment, but I was the 4th word of it so I figured I'd at least try to familiarize him with the situation. From there, hilarity ensues as:

he uses no facts, whatsoever, to try to make a grand statement (strike one!)

I point out that he did that, and clarify the matter so he can take another swing at it

He then attempts to make one fact, but completely misses the point because he's too angry to read(strike two!)

I then use his actual words to show that he's a liar (strike three!)

He then tries to play fast and loose with the English Language to avoid having to admit to being wrong (already past strike three, but still swinging!)

I point out that he just fell on his face again (really, go back to the dugout!)

He then returns to the usual MO of just accusing anyone who disagrees with him of "lying" (can you strike out twice if you refuse to leave after strike three and miss three more times?)

For bonus points, feel free to go back and count the number of times that he was reduced to slinging silly insults at me, rather than actually dealing with the matter at hand. Extra thanks to smitty for this one. I don't think he intended to make pudge look like a buffoon (not that it's hard) but he ended up dong it nonetheless. Perhaps this is why pudge doesn't come around here very often any more?

Journal: Another Conspiracy Theory Down the Drain 3

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I recently postulated that conservatives will resort to trying to get others to call them racist when they realize their own argument has disintegrated. This slightly reinvigorated one on their quest to claim that the race card is played anytime someone criticizes President Barack "Lawnchair" Obama. I then challenged them to provide an example where such a defense was actually used in politics, or even used at all here on slashdot.

Certainly, if it was as common of a tactic as they claim it should be trivial for the to produce tons of examples. And coming up with just one should be far easier than a cake walk. So how many could they come up with?

Not one.

That's right, not a single, solitary example. At one point they gave a link to a comedy central (daily show) clip that did not help the claim. Earlier a highly partisan collection of sound bites was quoted as well.

Not very impressive. Of course we don't really pull in the most accomplished conservative journalists here on slashdot, so there may be actual examples out there somewhere in the world. we just likely will never see them here.

Journal: A sequel to Godwin's Law 28

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This isn't really a corollary, though it's not far from being one. Godwin's Law of course states that given enough time any discussion on the internet will turn to talking about Hitler (or Nazis).

I've realized a while ago that American conservatives have their own "sequel" to Godwin's Law, and it goes something like this

Given a long enough discussion of politics with a conservative, they will try to get you to call them racist to end the discussion

It is somewhat the inverse of "race baiting", perhaps best called "racist baiting". I think we can call it the "Nobama Hypothesis" as I suspect many of the people who go for this play have the oh-so-clever "Nobama" bumper sticker on their car (likely often the variety with the hammer & sickle for an "O", and likely not far from their terrorist hunting permit).
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Journal: Bashing American Cars on Slashdot, Part 445987 12

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I was completely unsurprised to see people here jump all over a recent front page story as an excuse to bash Ford - even though most of what they said was at least tangential to reality, if not completely opposing it.

But when some idiot felt it useful to bring up the Pinto, I decided to respond:

The Pinto was 40 years ago. You conveniently overlooked the money they spent correcting that problem, and the fact that the Pinto has been out of production for a long time. That error didn't last the full run of the Pinto, for that matter.

But no, let's go ahead and line up to bash the American company. Need I remind you what the Japanese cars were like in the 1970s? Toyotas were barely able to reach freeway speed. Hondas were too small for a large segment of Americans (ie, people more than 6' tall) to drive comfortably. Both had rust problems galore. But yet they improved. Now people speak fondly of their Japanese cars. In the 1970s nobody would have believed that Toyota and Honda could some day make competitive luxury cars, yet now we have Lexus and Acura.

And if we look to South Korea, the turn around is even more dramatic (at least with regards to how quickly it happened). Hyundai from the 80s and 90s were utter garbage. They probably never should have been allowed on American freeways but we let them on anyways. They weren't reliable, comfortable, or safe. Yet now Hyundai and Kia are very competent little cars.

But yet we keep bashing Ford for what happened 40 years ago. If we did that to the Japanese and Korean cars they would have gone bankrupt years ago.

In case you haven't noticed, Ford Fusion has beat Toyota Camry in initial quality, best midsize, and car of the year more than once and from multiple reviewers. But yet obviously it is more important to remind people about what Ford did when Nixon was president.

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Journal: Why are these not all banned, then? 17

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Someone recently tried to make a point by stating

You cannot make a child through sodomy

Which appears to be yet another flimsy excuse for supporting homophobia. But if we really want to run with that flimsy statement, then we should realize that if that is really the only concern then there are many other sexual acts that have the same outcome:

  • Sex with a post-menopausal woman
  • Sex with a man who has had a vasectomy
  • Sex with a woman who has had her tubes tied or a hysterectomy
  • Sex with anyone who has had gender reassignment surgery

Furthermore, sex with a pregnant woman cannot produce another baby beyond the one already in the womb.

So why are all of those acts not banned as well? Why don't we support hatred against people who participate in them>

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Journal: Epic Reading Fail (health insurance bailout) 6

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There are creative cases of conservatives attempting to cover up their motivations of politics above all else, and then there are epic reading failures as a result. In particular I bring to attention smitty's amazing inability to read his own source:

Yeah, that's been debunked: [] But you keep playing that card as you whistle past the graveyard, girl. Obama's perfidy is too publicly on display. The Democrats own it.

This was in response to my reminding him that the Health Insurance Industry Bailout Act of 2010 (aka the Affordable Care Act, aka "Obamacare") was indeed driven primarily by goals of the Heritage Foundation in an attempt to bring over conservative votes. We all know of course that it resembles "RomneyCare" from Massachusetts more than it does anything that Obama or any liberal championed while running for office, but what Smitty shared here in an attempt to distance conservatives from the 2010 bill only cements their legacy within it:

we sought to induce people to buy coverage primarily through the carrot of a generous health credit or voucher, financed in part by a fundamental reform of the tax treatment of health coverage

Sound familiar? Anyone who paid attention to the SCOTUS ruling on the act knows that the supreme court ruled the mandate constitutional because it is ... wait for it ... a tax. In other words, it was exactly what the Heritage Foundation wanted.

Naturally it was - after all, they wrote the damned bill.


Journal: Bug Report 17

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It appears that the pudgescript started in a non-complete manner this time. I see it again awoke and started by replying to one of my comments in a non-informative way. It even proceeded to insult me as usual. However, there is a noted bug in this iteration of the run.

Namely, after several replies, it has yet to accuse me of lying. It still follows most of its usual behaviors, but the lying accusation module is not being called up on the usual schedule. Someone might want to look into this before we have any further slashdot code-rot.
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Journal: Which of these are progressive values? 78

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From recent messages from Smitty, it appears that all of these values are now the property of progressives - or at the very least, conservatives oppose them:
  • Actual independent, non-partisan agenda-free investigations into events
  • Government representation of the people, elected by the people
  • Having federal agencies do the job they are tasked with

I can see how conservatives would hate those ideas so much. That is, I can understand it, if they live in some sort of alternate up==down reality.

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Journal: [conspiracy] How many investigations do we need? 15

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For reasons that are not abundantly clear (aside from the fact that they don't seem to have a better one), Benghazi seems to remain the most popular conspiracy theory for the conservatives. I will remind us in this JE though that there have already been two reports released, neither of which have been particularly kind to the administration:

Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on Benghazi

NY Times report on Benghazi

So we have two reports, one from the government and one that was from the media. Neither were kind to the administration, yet neither provided everything the conservatives wanted either. So how many investigations do they want? At what point will they be happy?

It appears the first answer is "enough to drive the president out of the white house", and the second is likely "only after the president and everyone with a "D" after their name is driven permanently from Washington DC".
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Journal: $freaks++ 4

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This hasn't happened in a while...

Relationship Change
sent by Slashdot Message System on Tuesday February 04, 2014 @07:05PM

RalphWigum (519738) has made you their foe.

I suspect it may relate to one of the comments I posted in the discussion on the voter shortsightedness article as I haven't written much here that has gotten much attention lately, but that's just a guess.

1 Billion dollars of budget deficit = 1 Gramm-Rudman