To my Libertarian friends:
After 28 years of laissez-faire orthodoxy, I think the results are in.
Btw, we could have implemented a Canadian-style health care system with the money that it's going to take to bail out the financial marketeers. In addition, having a healthy (and richer) population and businesses with health care off of their books would have boosted productivity (possibly even making up for or exceeding the cost to the Treasury) and kept more manufacturing in the United States.
It's time to put down your copy of Capitalism and Freedom, stop calling anyone with empathy a "collectivist", and take a long hard look at the state of the world (including the giant counterexample that is China).
I promise not to rub your noses in it (much).