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Comment: Here's my 3800 satoshi (Score 1) 546

by cshark (#47822935) Attached to: Does Learning To Code Outweigh a Degree In Computer Science?

As someone who learned how to code without school, and gradually since the early days of the internet, I think I come to the table as someone with a lot of practical experience on this subject. Practical experience is great. But when you are a self taught programmer, you're (at least initially) going to speak a slightly different dialect than your counterparts that spent years in school learning how to do this stuff. And that's okay, because it's something that's workable.

You're also going to end up with a lot of experience that revolves around the way you think, and the way you, personally, happen to solve problems. This is going to be an issue for you until you have about a decade of experience or so in the corporate world. The advantage here, is that there will be certain areas where you run circles around the college guys, which is great for your ego, and strong egos are important in young programmers.

The drawback is that there are going to be other areas where the college guys can expound on a subject at length, and you'll have no idea what they're talking about. If you're smart enough to keep up, you'll get it; just bear in mind that there will be things that you'll have to begin learning that the college guys spent half a decade studying.

The best thing you can do, as someone who teaches yourself code is remember that everything you're doing, and everything you have done is part of the learning process. Unlike a lot of the guys who earn degrees, you're never going to stop learning, and for simple reasons of economy, you're going to have to remain faster, stronger on the practical matters of your trade, and more open minded to changing platforms and workflows than your counterparts. This is what makes you competitive in the marketplace.

In the event that you do end up going back to school, usually because you've convinced yourself that you need an expensive piece of paper, I urge you not to make the mistake that I've seen some of the best self taught programmers make. Don't unlearn what you know. Don't forget what you've done, or the practical experience you have. Just because you happened to hear it in a CS lecture doesn't necessarily mean that this is the most accurate or up to date information on any given subject.

If you decide not to pursue the academic route (like I did), my best advice would be to take your craft seriously. Young programmers are like cats with imposter complexes, and they can make the mistake of seeing other programmers as competition. What I'm telling you is that you need to run directly against that instinct, and go out of your way to find good mentors. Most people that would mentor you work day jobs, and with a little cyber stalking, it's not really especially difficult to get yourself on their teams.

Comb through big open source or high profile proprietary products that you can verify are much stronger programmers than you, who may work in areas you're interested in. Seek these people out, stalk them, try to learn from them. Apply for jobs where they work. Try to get jobs on those teams. Then... learn how to take orders, and let them teach you what they know about programming and life. Of all of the options available to you as a programmer, this is the most challenging. But in my experience, it yields the greatest rewards... even if it is an exercise in humility at times.

There will be days when you feel the job has beaten the shit out of you, but that's how you know you're learning.

Don't give up.
Don't pretend you don't belong there. It's never your place to make that call.
Rinse, repeat.
Do this for a years, and you'll be among the best.

Hope that helps.

Comment: Re:Cameras reduce problems for everyone (Score 1) 455

by cshark (#47811717) Attached to: Should police have cameras recording their work at all times?

Or maybe the LAPD stopped beating people for the crime of being poor because they knew they were on camera? That is the more likely explanation since it is the simplist, and since it has been proven that over 80% of the LAPD are Republicans so they hate minorities and want them dead. That is the way of their kind.

Have you been watching the news the last decade or so? Missouri cops are far more dangerous than the LAPD on their best day. Three summary executions this month. As a point of fact, most people in California are Liberals, so it stands to reason that the police force is demographically liberal as well... unless you've got some kind of evidence to the contrary. Would love to know what "proven" means here. And even if you were right, you're still talking about California Republicans, which would be considered "far left" in a place like Austin, or anywhere outside of California, if you want to be intellectually honest about it.

Of course they're going to beat fewer people when on camera. They're too cowardly to stand-up for what they believe, which is that minorities need to be beaten.

And in what way do you perceive that as being a good thing? But do you seriously believe this nonsense?

Of course if they had enough morals to stand-up for what they believe, then wouldn't be idiot Republicans in the first place.

No, you're absolutely right. They would be self entitled, racist liberals, that spew offensive dribble like this on Slashdot.

Comment: Re: Her work (Score 1) 1262

At the end of the day, whether or not you play video games is a choice. You have the right to decide not to buy a game. You have the right not to agree with the context or subject of the game. What Anita does is assume that since she's offended, that the games have no right to exist.

Comment: Bullshit (Score 1, Informative) 1262

This is a woman who has been caught lying about this kind of thing in the past. She's getting criticism, she doesn't like it, or know how to deal with it; so she makes up stories like this. She's done it before. She's been caught. Don't buy into this woman's attention whoring.

Comment: Re:Don't reinvent the Wheel (Score 1) 548

by cshark (#47723941) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: What Do You Wish You'd Known Starting Out As a Programmer?

Hard to say. I would almost consider building new wheels to be part of the learning process for a new programmer. And I think there's value in it. Not just in the base problem solving skills that comes with re-inventing the wheel a few times, but in the perspectives that come along with it. If you don't re-invent the wheel at least a couple of times, then you will have no basis for forming a valid opinion on the best way to implement a wheel. Which, granted, may not sound like much, but it makes a difference in so many other areas. Besides, even when you're talking about literal wheels, those get re-invented all the time. If they weren't we would never have gotten innovations like the rubber tire, or the memory foam insert for armored cars. We would still have wooden wagon wheels, which, while useful, aren't especially interesting or versatile. I think, in the long run, the same is true for code. If someone wants to write a big new shopping cart product, based on what they think are the best practices for such an implementation... let them. If someone wants to think out a new way to write a blog, or send an email, that's fine too. If I were bringing young guys onto my team, I would honestly prefer to work with people who had that kind of experience, over people that didn't. Just my 3800 satoshi.

Comment: The other thing... (Score 1) 548

by cshark (#47723831) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: What Do You Wish You'd Known Starting Out As a Programmer?

The other thing I wish I had known earlier as a programmer is that while open source is nice for developing skillsets, it's also nice to make a few bucks with the things I create. Had I been a little more business minded in my early years as a programmer, I would have been a lot richer, a lot sooner. This also relates back to mentoring. As a young programmer, it's very important to seek out and work with grizzly old programmers who have been where you are, and experienced the things you might be trying to figure out right now. Personally, I didn't even realize I needed mentors until about five years in. I should have looked for them earlier.

The cost of feathers has risen, even down is up!