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Comment: Re:And the day comes when... (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749213) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

The first three are valid responses. The fourth, although I despise it, is actually illegal under the DMCA (circumvention of DRM). Microsoft doesn't have to circumvent anything to display ad-free YouTube videos; they're just playing the files as Google serves them (currently freely, unrestrictedly, and without ads in them).

Comment: Re:Anyone else here noticed? (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749203) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

Microsoft also used to develop and distribute IE for the popular Unix systems of the day. That didn't mean people wouldn't (rightly) rag on them for failing to follow web standards.

Not that the situation is actually as analogous as JustNiz implied, but your response isn't really a meaningful counterpoint either. I can block ads on YouTube.com all I want (it's easier on not-phone platforms than on phones, but it can be done on either).

Comment: Irrelevant (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749179) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

The whole point of "you bought it" is a total red herring here. Is region locking OK by you and free DVDs that are handed out to anybody who asks? Because that is exactly how YouTube serves video files!

Also, no, they don't need to generate revenue. They want to generate revenue, but they aren't entitled to it. It's not a good business model to spend money (hosting/serving video files) giving stuff away for free. However, that's what Google is doing here; it's not the responsibility of any other entity (not the government, and certainly not a competing company) to ensure that they manage to earn revenue despite giving the content away for free. If Google doesn't like what Microsoft's app does, they can either (try to) refuse to serve it any video content (good luck with that), or they can stop giving away the content for free.

Well, or they can go complain to somebody in government, I guess. The courts have been braindead enough to uphold TOS as though they're actual contracts on occasion, though not often. The usual argument is copyright law, and that's completely off the table here; Microsoft is displaying the videos exactly as Google is serving them!

Comment: You're blind (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749103) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

You're letting your hatred of MS blind you to the likely, and perfectly reasonable, response they would take. You're then using it to justify condemning them here. If Google started blocking Microsoft's ads, I'm sure that Microsoft would just use something like IE's Tracking Protection feature - essentially a built-in ad-blocker - to ignore all requests for AdWords/AdSense, DoubleClick, and all other Google ad revenue streams they could find. Microsoft has a traditional business model based on selling things to customers; the revenue they derive from ads hosted on their sites is trivial compared to what Google stands to lose.

I doubt they'll throw the first punch in that war, but if Google were to block Microsoft ads, the perfectly logical response for Microsoft to take in response would hurt Google far more than it would hurt MS!

Comment: Re:Anything to get more customers (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749075) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

No actually, legally speaking they do not have that right. You may feel that the deserve to be compensated, but they are distributing the video files. Legally, I have a right to *not* watch the ads they would like to serve along with the videos, and they have a right to not serve me the videos if they don't want to, but they have no right to force me to watch ads as compensation for receiving the video files that they provide freely in response to an HTTP GET request.

It's exactly the same as the reason why ad-blockers are completely legal, but sites are also legally allowed to not display their web page if they detect you using an ad blocker. Nothing, however, gives them a right to require that I view their ads. There is no right to make an auxiliary income stream (advertising) off of something that you give away for free (stuff hosted publicly on the web).

Comment: Re:I can't wait to see this battle (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43749037) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

Incorrect; that's not how copyright works. Microsoft isn't [re]distributing anything except an app they wrote themselves. The actual video content is still being distributed by YouTube; it's just being rendered through a client that Microsoft wrote. They cannot (legally, under copyright law) dictate what you do with the content once it is distributed to you, so long as you aren't making copies. Things like "copied into RAM for purposes of being rendered to a display" already have special exemptions, so there's really no legitimacy to the claim that by default MS has no right to use the content.

To adapt your own analogy to the real world, despite what the Windows installer for Pidgin will display to you, the GPL is not a EULA. Open source (which is copyright thing) licenses do not, and can not, regulate what you use the software for so long as you aren't sending it to anybody else. To use a different analogy, provided I'm not plagiarizing it (claiming that it's my own content), I can legally deep link any publicly hosted content that I want to, at least as far as copyright law goes; if the provider of the content doesn't like that, the onus is on them to not distribute it in that manner.

Comment: Not really (Score 1) 709

by cbhacking (#43748809) Attached to: Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8

Microsoft's app is just grabbing the video stream - same as, for example, what you would get if you used the HTML5 mode - and displaying it. Displaying it requires downloading it to *somewhere*, saving that to a temp file is logical (allows the user to seek back, for example), and saving that temp file to a persistent file is trivial.

On the website, YouTube overlays ads on the video window or plays an ad video before the requested one or whatever they're doing these days. Those aren't in the raw video streams that MS is using. To do that in an app either requires screen scraping the actual site to find the ad layers, which is a labor-intensive, error-prone, non-future-proof, and inefficient way to go about it... or they can just display that video files that YouTube happily serves to anybody who asks.

Comment: Re:Insightful video (Score 1) 242

by cbhacking (#43744623) Attached to: Leaked Microsoft Video Parodies Chrome Ad

"URL to an encrypted site" (https://slashdot.org) != "encrypted URL". Don't confuse them. There is absolutely nothing at all wrong with going to a random HTTPS site.

I rather strongly suspect that it's the Skype client, rather than the Microsoft-run servers, that is extracting those URLs from messages and sending them to MS for testing. In other words, MS isn't decrypting your traffic at all (except for the obvious necessary decryption by the Skype client when you receive a message). This might be incorrect, though. In any case, it's definitely a concern - whatever the source of the URLs, URLs in your messages are being sent somewhere without you knowing - but it's relatively mild compared to full-text scanning.

Intel

Paul Otellini: Intel Lost the iPhone Battle, But It Could Win the Mobile War 117

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from the learning-from-mistakes dept.
kenekaplan writes "In an interview with The Atlantic before stepping down as CEO of Intel, Paul Otellini reflects on his decision not to make a chip for the then yet released iPhone. 'The lesson I took away from that was, while we like to speak with data around here, so many times in my career I've ended up making decisions with my gut, and I should have followed my gut,' he said. 'My gut told me to say yes.'"
The Courts

Irish Judge Orders 'The Internet' To Delete Video 243

Posted by Unknown Lamer
from the when-idiots-and-networks-collide dept.
New submitter edanto writes "A young Irish man wrongly accused of jumping from a taxi without paying the fare has secured a judgement from an Irish court ordering the video removed from the entire Internet. Experts from Google, Youtube, Facebook, and others must tell the court in two weeks if this is technically possible. The thing is, the video is accurate, it is only a comment that wrongly identified Eoin McKeogh as the fare-jumper in the video that is inaccurate. It's not clear if the judge has made any orders about the comment."

Comment: Re:Why does he keep calling it an 0day? (Score 1) 177

Yep. "0-day" is just security talk for "newly discovered" and tends to get a bit overused. Nonetheless, it's a useful and sometimes very interesting categorization. A lot of the famous worms of the past were not 0-days, but actually exploited vulnerabilites which had been known (and mitigated) weeks or month prior to the worm's release into the wild. People don't always patch in a manner that can even vaguely be called timely. I wish I could say they'd learned their lesson already, but I still see outdated web servers, SSH servers, database servers, etc. all the time.

Comment: Re:Am I the only professional C/C++ coder ... (Score 1) 177

"crashes applications" is the least of what you can do with %n. In fact, heavy misuse of the other format string specifiers is usually enough to crash the program; just keep reading strings (or doubles, or whatever) until you wander into unallocated memory and trigger a Read AV / segfault.

No, %n is what you do when you want arbitrary code execution in the vulnerable process. Format string vulnerabilites are as serious as buffer overflows, and as stupid (as in, no excuse for having them) as using gets() (which is itself guaranteed unsafe).

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