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Comment: Re:Knuth's TeX and Metafont (Score 2) 373

by bre_dnd (#46583737) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: What Do You Consider Elegant Code?
I live in the UK, about an hour away from London. I have been to New York, but only once.

London has existed for over a thousand years. It has just grown organically. All recent services (such luxuries as underground, trains, ringroads, mains water, electricity, sewers, communication lines) have been retrofitted on that base -- and it shows. The roads are the wrong size for the amount of traffic -- trains clash and are overfull, high rise offices are planned but foundations have to carefully avoid all the tunneling below.

New York, in it's current form, is a lot younger than that. A lot of the concepts "we might want sewers" / electricity / rail, to some extend, could be taken into account when the city grid was being laid out. It's a lot easier to build sewers / underground trains before high rise buildings have gone up on top.

Back to the software world -- if you've got code that was pre-Web / pre-Internet but needs to be brought into the 21st century, inevitably things won't fit. I've worked on some banking code which had punchcard assumptions shine through. Some of that code is 40 years old. You could call it crufty, some would call it rock-solid.

Comment: Re:Comment your damn code (Score 5, Insightful) 373

by bre_dnd (#46582439) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: What Do You Consider Elegant Code?
I respectfully disagree.

I've written code that computes a CRC. It's been done before. The naive/reference implementation works but isn't fast. The optimized version, and how the heck that came about from the naive implementation to those magic few lines of code, looks nothing like it. Now rather than you glazing over "what the?", I figure that *if* you have to overhaul this code, you'd like to know *why* this code looks like it does. So I explained why. In the code. In a full page of comments.

Comment: Knuth's TeX and Metafont (Score 5, Insightful) 373

by bre_dnd (#46582187) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: What Do You Consider Elegant Code?
Interesting code, serves a real purpose, solves a real problem.

A lot of "real world" code out there has not been designed, it has grown, and that's part of the problem. Think of cities that have grown (London?) rather than be designed according to some grand master plan (New York?) and major reengineering exercises need to be undertaken (in the case of London, as one example, sewage pipes were fitted in underneath). Inevitably there's some shortcuts taken or real reasons that you could not quite do the best job.

Codewise, the oldest running code probably lives in the banking system or the telephony system. Typically code that has grown over time and can't just be shut down for an upgrade -- "what do you mean close the bank for a week?". Now whatever code runs there has been kept running (bodged?) for decades, but pretty it probably isn't.

Comment: Re:The Problem (Score 5, Insightful) 332

by bre_dnd (#46035961) Attached to: Marc Andreessen On Why Bitcoin Matters (And A Critique)
I'd say that that works in favour. As bitcoin get more valuable / scarce the tendency to protect them increases. So as more of them get lost the rate of them getting lost will decrease. Note that "gold" also has a finite amount available that gets progressively harder/more expensive to mine.

Comment: As Henry Ford said... (Score 3, Interesting) 278

by bre_dnd (#44996227) Attached to: How BlackBerry Blew It
If I asked my customers what they wanted, they'd say they wanted a faster horse. Innovation comes from thinking out of the box.

I worked on some mobile e-mail product some 8 years ago. Call it a Blackberry competitor -- it ran on phones like the Palm Treo, Nokia E61 and various Windows Mobile devices. There was rumours of Apple making a phone -- and when it came out, it had no keys... I remember thinking -- how are you ever going to type a message without keys? Well...

Comment: How much!?! You made my day. (Score 1) 91

by bre_dnd (#44528853) Attached to: Crunching the Numbers On Shared Cellphone Contracts
Dear o dear you're getting fleeced over in the US. I paid for my phone outright. One off cost. A humble Galaxy S3 mini. £180 / US$ 280 including all sales tax, new, unlocked. Add a SIM-only deal. I pay £8 / US$12.50 for 500 minutes, unlimited messages and 1GB of data. there. Oh, and I don't pay for incoming calls.

Looks like prices in the UK are around 25% of the prices you quote...

IF I HAD A MINE SHAFT, I don't think I would just abandon it. There's got to be a better way. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.