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Comment: Re:Turing test not passed. (Score 1) 282

by blue trane (#47422905) Attached to: The Lovelace Test Is Better Than the Turing Test At Detecting AI

No, it says natural language is the best way to measure human intelligence.

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/cours... "Computing Machinery and Intelligence":

The question and answer method seems to be suitable for introducing almost any one of the fields of human endeavour that we wish to include. We do not wish to penalise the machine for its inability to shine in beauty competitions, nor to penalise a man for losing in a race against an aeroplane. The conditions of our game make these disabilities irrelevant.

Turing also mentions the strategy of not behaving like a man, which the recent winner may be interpreted as having adopted:

It might be urged that when playing the "imitation game" the best strategy for the
machine may possibly be something other than imitation of the behaviour of a man. This
may be, but I think it is unlikely that there is any great effect of this kind. In any case
there is no intention to investigate here the theory of the game, and it will be assumed that
the best strategy is to try to provide answers that would naturally be given by a man.

Comment: Re: How about (Score 1) 376

Evidence of business attempting to censor: The perils of posting scathing reviews on Yelp and Angie's List

Evidence that business lies: Cable industry finally admits that data caps have nothing to do with congestion.

US capitalism was still using slavery when it started to take off. US technology won World War II. What business would invest in computers or the nuclear bomb? Government did, because business was too short-sighted and focused on immediate profits.

Business's idea of the internet was Prodigy and Compuserve.

Government nourished the computer industry by ordering chips for TI during the 1960s, when hardly anyone else was.

I've worked for big corporations, I've worked for small businesses. The ability to make small talk, chat up the boss, and scapegoat trumped any technical skills. One boss used to "spin the fickle finger of blame" when a project overran its budget.

I'd like to get involved in government. I email representatives, sometimes getting replies. Maybe I will go to some public meetings.

Comment: Re: How about (Score 1) 376

Business actively prevents "shining a light" on its activities, with take-down notices, astroturfing, etc. You have a very sanitized view of business. I don't.

My experience with business is that it promotes lying. Liars are rewarded. I don't like to lie, so business has no use for me.

Government however has stepped up to provide for my General Welfare. If I relied on business, I'd be dead.

Your argument is contradictory. First you say that the internet has changed the evil nature of business. Then you say that the US's wealth is not due to technology.

Remember, business didn't see any use for the internet. Government invested in it, engineers at universities created it without thought to a profit motive (as Kleinrock has explicitly said). When engineers went to AT&T, they were dismissed because AT&T thought their focus should be on the telephone.

Government is for the people, by the people, of the people. Business makes money more important than people.

Comment: Re: How about (Score 1) 376

I've traveled. I've seen beggars in India asking for paisa, during monsoon season. I've seen community toilets in Beijing, for an entire neighborhood. My mother, raised in India, talks of the bribes she pays everyone, for anything. It's nothing like in the United States.

The US produces huge surpluses, thanks to technology. The goal is to increase knowledge and technology. Government has always played a role in innovation in the US, and it can facilitate a greater rate of technological progress.

Humans survived because of sharing. Hunters shared with gatherers.

The real goal is knowledge advance, and competitive business is not the best or only way to progress. Business has too many perverse incentives and moral hazards. Give people a choice, whether they want to enter the market or pursue ideas on their own. Hold challenges to stimulate disruptive innovation. Standards of living will rise increasingly faster.

Comment: Re:The goal of 1st world countries (Score 1) 401

by blue trane (#47400521) Attached to: No Shortage In Tech Workers, Advocacy Groups Say

A coworker was fired for refusing to work overtime. Isn't that infringing on what you want to do outside of the contracted workday?

And there are many examples in the news of employers firing people for social media posts.

Employers want robots. So let's give it to them. Have government provide a basic income, and hold challenges to automate jobs. Win-win.

Comment: Re:The goal of 1st world countries (Score 1) 401

by blue trane (#47397445) Attached to: No Shortage In Tech Workers, Advocacy Groups Say

The goal of business, of course, is to make the individual subservient to the corporation. Even what you do on your own time has to conform to company policy. "Company Man!"

The solution is more welfare, enough to provide a decent standard of living, then let biz pay what it wants. So if you want to enter the market you can; if you don't want to play that game, you're free to innovate on your own, and enter challenges.

Comment: Re:The goal of 1st world countries (Score 1) 401

by blue trane (#47397435) Attached to: No Shortage In Tech Workers, Advocacy Groups Say

1) Comparing the US to the Weimar Republic is ridiculous. Germany had just lost a world war. To the US! If you've just lost a world war, and have to make onerous reparation payments, then worry about hyperinflation. Consider that after WWII, the US instead of demanding reparations gave money to Germany and Italy (as well as the Allies) with the Marshall Plan.

2) Saying taxes fund the government is like saying deposits fund bank lending. In fact banks are highly leveraged, and roll over their funding daily. Then you have shadow banks that don't even have regular deposits, yet they manage to create money and roll over their funding. Government can use the same tactic, especially with the Fed which by law returns interest to the Treasury. Taxes aren't needed to fund the government.

Comment: Re:The goal of 1st world countries (Score 3, Interesting) 401

by blue trane (#47395979) Attached to: No Shortage In Tech Workers, Advocacy Groups Say

Free stuff utopia. Government provides a basic income to all who want it, financed at zero cost through the Fed. Biz pays whatever low wages it wants so there's no wage-price spiral. Challenges stimulate individuals to innovate disruptively on their own without having to work for a business (unless they want to). Standards of living rise faster, there is more leisure time, and poverty is eliminated.

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