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Comment Re:Sheesh Dice... (Score 1) 289

So is the group "women who have made false accusations of harassment" or "women in general"?

Because if the group is "women who have made false accusations of harassment and have refused to accept responsibility" sure - I have no problem with saying that "women who have made false accusations of harassment and have failed to accept responsibility" should be publicly outed.

But if you're saying "women in general" should be lumped in, then holy shit, you're insane. No one should have to apologize or accept responsibility for anyone's actions but their own or those that they are directly in control of/have authority over. I personally refuse to take responsibility for stupid behavior because some people in my demographic bucket behave poorly, and even more so, fuck anyone who says that I am obligated to say "I don't like that behavior!" when someone in my demographic bucket behaves poorly.

Further, if you're endorsing the "women in general" notion - then the exact same reasoning holds true for men.

So please, be clear: who bears the responsibility, in your opinion? Women who make false accusations of harassment or women in general?

Comment Re:Sheesh Dice... (Score 1) 289

Yeah, because the post that was linked doesn't show an obvious agenda, with quotes like "(Donâ(TM)t like that, ladies? Tough. You were just fine with collective guilt when the shoe was on the other foot. Enjoy your turn!)" That seems pretty axe-grindy to me and only serves to perpetuate the cycle of mistrust and abuses that mistrust enables.

I agree that if people, regardless of gender, are concerned that private one-on-one interactions they have may be used against them, by all means, strive to never be alone with someone you don't trust.

I think it sucks that some men feel like they can't talk to a woman without being accused of impropriety. I think it sucks that some women feel like they can't report a legitimate impropriety without being subject to character assassination and accusations that they were "asking for it". I think it sucks in general that people have stereotypes of the worst in their demographic bucket applied to them, and I don't think any reasonable person can disagree with that general statement.

The situation sucks for EVERYONE. If ESR, fully knowing his celebrity status and the scrutiny it would get, were ACTUALLY trying to do justice to his status, he would have been more responsible in his approach rather than clearly turning it into a dig at women in general with the quote I posted above.

Comment Re:Sheesh Dice... (Score 2, Insightful) 289

I agree. It's terrifying (well, more disappointing) that completely unsubstantiated claims from someone who was chatting anonymously on IRC are being taken seriously by anyone, ESPECIALLY someone who is seen as a thought leader in the OSS community, and that some idiots will latch on to this kind of weak shit as proof of their preconceptions and then begin acting on this nonsense.

Comment Re:It's not discrimination if people aren't applyi (Score 1) 362

You don't know what a protected class is.

Race is a protected class, period. You can't discriminate on the basis of race, regardless of whether it's black, white, etc.

Gender is a protected class, period. You can't discriminate on the basis of gender, regardless of male or female and in some states transgender.

In some states, sexual orientation is a protected class, period. You can't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, be it gay, bi, straight, etc.

If your buddy's boss actually said that, then I would expect HP to get hit with a discrimination suit any day now. He should probably turn his boss in, if it's actually true.

Comment Re:Yknow what else is male dominated? (Score 1) 373

Honest question:

Have you ever or do you currently volunteer or work as part of a program aimed at helping men escape homelessness, offer suicide prevention, or help men avoid incarceration?

Follow-up: do you work in education, especially elementary education? If not, why not?

I ask because clearly these issues are important enough to you to come in here and complain about, so one would hope you've actually tried to do something to address them.

And now for the part where I burn my karma:

What's amazing to me is that these people who are making this school are trying to show some agency and DO SOMETHING to address a problem they see, and a whole bunch of dudes are REALLY FUCKING BOTHERED by this.

When I see a group try and do something to help themselves, I don't say "WELL YOU KNOW OTHER GROUPS ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS!!!!!!" I say "hey, great, people should work together to get ahead." Shouldn't ANYONE who claims to be a geek be all for people trying to fix things they see as a problem? Isn't one of the key concepts behind OSS the notion of scratching an itch/addressing a problem?

Also, before some moron says "WELL WHAT IF THERE WAS A SCHOOL ONLY FOR MEN OR ONLY FOR WHITE PEOPLE!?" - I'm actually opposed to any institution that flat out refuses to admit or work with people based on race, gender, color, creed, sexual orientation or gender presentation. If you read the code of conduct for this school, you'll see that they explicitly state that they don't discriminate based on gender.

If you look at most organizations that have a specific demographic group in their name, they ALSO will help anyone who actually needs it, regardless of whether they're in that group or not. The reason that they have their specific groups in their name is to make it clear to people of that group that there is a place for them.

Comment Privacy is over. Get used to it. (Score 1) 373

There really isn't any such thing as privacy at this point, just "not being worth bothering to look up."

Any data store worth worrying about has probably been compromised. It's currently fairly easy to identify and then get information you want about any given individual, and as tech advances it's going to become absolutely trivial. Even moreso, new tech will come along making some data that are currently very difficult to obtain easy and then trivial.

You don't have privacy now, you don't even have anonymity. And you probably don't even have "not being worth looking up" because someone SOMEWHERE is probably curious enough about you to at least google you or something.

The best course of action, IMO, is to embrace that knowledge and figure out ways to minimize the damage that can be done to you if someone does violate what you imagine is your "privacy." There's no good solution to keeping things ACTUALLY private, but there are plenty of good solutions for minimizing damage of important or personal information being freely available.

Comment Re:Who read this and thought he invented something (Score 1) 662

Yep, you're absolutely right! Had that situation happened, I'm willing to bet the kid would have received similar treatment to what Ahmed received.

Except Ahmed received it for bringing in a pencil case with no wires sticking out, and he then answered all the questions saying it was a clock, repeatedly.

So, the $color kid would have been treated with suspicion (rightly so) for behaving suspicion, while Ahmed was treated with suspicion despite not acting suspicious.

So what are your motives here in the statement that you made?

You're either ignorant of the circumstances and trying to push an agenda/your opinions despite being ignorant, or you know what the circumstances actually were and are lying to try and push an agenda as well as basing your opinions on an intentional disregard for the truth.

Comment Re:Diversity gap is irrelevant (Score 1) 176

That is one advantage, yes. If one is perceived to have earned their position through hard work/talent then one is more likely to continue to advance because they will be considered for future promotions/opportunities. If one is perceived to have gotten their position as a handout, then one is less likely to advance further because they will be less likely to be considered for future promotions/opportunities.

Another disadvantage of being perceived to have gotten a position through affirmative action is that it's really easy to internalize those perceptions which will further hinder performance. Everyone has experienced impostor syndrome or feelings that they are in over their head even when they are absolutely capable and doing a great job, but when those feelings are being reinforced by others attributing success to handouts rather than ability, or that any good work they do is luck (or due to someone else helping), it's a very difficult thing to dismiss that.

Personally, I loathe affirmative action because it leads to exactly this kind of bullshit. There are better solutions to the inequality caused by systemic prejudice than affirmative action, and it would be a good thing to find them.

Comment Re:Diversity gap is irrelevant (Score 1) 176

While I agree that poverty should be a factor in these kinds of programs, there is still the difference that it's very unlikely that a poor white male from Appalachia who does manage to get into a desirable position probably is going to be told that it's due to affirmative action instead of his natural abilities.

Basically, it sucks to be poor, but being white is still an advantage. Rather be poor and white any day over being poor and black, no question what-so-ever.

Comment Re:No "morally acceptable" sites? (Score 1) 706

There are numerous studies in which a majority of people admit to cheating on their spouses or partners. When I say "a majority" I mean, in some studies, the rate of people admitting to infidelity (both genders) was around 70%.

(Just google "percentage of people who cheat on their spouse" and you'll get what I found)

Take into account that some people would never admit to it, even if promised absolute privacy and the rates are likely higher.

Is something still traditional if most people don't actually abide by that tradition? Or maybe the tradition is to claim you're faithful but then cheat and feel like shit about it? Humans are pretty weird.

Comment Re:use this one neat trick (Score 3, Insightful) 365

Pretty much exactly that.

In my experience, people learning a little bit about programming tend to also learn to respect the fact that there's a ton of stuff they don't know. Yeah, I've run into some who think a single run through of some "Learn X in 24 Hours" book makes them a developer, but they're the minority.

What's really valuable about "everyone" being exposed to programming is that it helps them learn to think about problem solving in a usually different way. Where I work, we had our entire product management team go through a week long programming bootcamp and it's been AMAZING in improving the quality of the specs they write. They aren't under the impression that they're developers but they definitely have a better appreciation for what we do.

And, we developers went through a product bootcamp as well so that we had a better understanding of what they do and more insight into what is driving some of the things they ask for.

More knowledge and understanding is very rarely a bad thing.

Comment Re:Huh? Wasn't it clear that he was joking? (Score 1) 412

I make a post explaining that because of the historical context, his "joke" wasn't funny.

You made a post explaining to me why his joke was funny.

I made a couple of "jokes" that were identical in form and historical context to his, pointing out the absurdity of your point.

You respond by saying I don't get humor and that I lack reading comprehension. It's pretty clear you didn't find my "jokes" funny, despite them being fundamentally the same in tone and historical context.

One of us isn't following along here, and it's very obviously you.

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