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Comment non-experts? (Score 1) 112 112

>"Non-experts are less likely to use password managers: some find them difficult to use, some don't realize how helpful they can be, and others are simply reluctant to (as they see it) "write" passwords down."

Yeah, because only non-experts would worry about a closed-source, unknown, third party having access to all their extremely sensitive passwords, stored on a server outside their control, stored with unknown methodology, connected to the Internet, with who-knows what access to the data.

Yeah, only non-experts should be worried.

Comment Re:What's the point? (Score 1) 214 214

>"you will be able to do the same from your wayland desktop, just like you can do it from your OSX desktop or your Windows desktop. Just install an X server app and away you go."

We have heard that before. And I will believe it when I see it actually working, and working correctly in the real world, and with network performance at least as good as X, and working with *all* Xclients.

Tell me, how would one manage thin client machines that run ONLY an Xserver and use XDMCP? And also when that user has Xclients launching from other non-login hosts too? And sometimes even local Xclients. We do ALL that in our environment.

Comment Re:What's the point? (Score 2) 214 214

>"The GNOME idiots have been making it a point to break compatibility and remove "old" (aka "working", "currently used") features. You are delusional if you think they will continue supporting X once they declare the Wayland version to be "standard"."

BINGO!!!! +1000

And then other projects will marginalize their X ports too, perhaps LibreOffice, perhaps Firefox, who knows. But at some point there will be no way to continue to really run a full-blown X11 workstation, and that *SUCKS*. Because rest assured, there are some severe issues and limitations with Wayland. Of course they are going to dismiss those as "old stuff nobody cares about anymore". Or point to some unstable demo code that nobody cares about. Or some ridiculously complex work-around that is flaky at best.

I am certainly not opposed to Wayland in CONCEPT. The problem is that it won't be adding something new we can choose, it will be something that destroys X11 and negates any possibility of improving X to something like X12.

Comment Re:What's the point? (Score 2) 214 214

>This statement is fundamentally crap. Every day I run multiple kde 4 applications on multiple systems back to a single desktop with ssh. The applications are not degraded and I don't have to disable any X11 features to do it.

If I had mod points, I would mod you up AND the parent of your reply down.

We use remote X even when it is not remote- thin clients. X11 works great both locally and remotely. I do wish that there was an X12 effort rather than the attempt to throw X completely away... which I am quite certain this is where it is headed with Wayland. And I absolutely know this is going to be a nightmare for me when projects stop supporting X11 for reasons that most people are not expecting or covering.

Comment Re:It'll never work in the U.S. (Score 1) 183 183

"There is no desire or advantage to build roads that don't need to be rebuilt very few years."

Speak for yourself on that one. I, and MILLIONS of others in the USA, want roads that last more than "very few years".
Living through reconstruction of the roadway (or rather, lack thereof as it falls apart and its cracks filled with tar) is a ridiculous and laughable.

Comment Re:Spam? (Score 3, Insightful) 55 55

I'm the same way. I got my gmail account back when you had to be invited. I was going to use it as a spam catcher account but I noticed quickly that no matter what I did nothing bad was really coming through. I've used it as my primary account for over 8 years now, and I think maybe 4-5 emails made it through.

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