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Comment: Re:How many times? (Score 2) 389 389

That is fucking ridiculous (not saying it's illegal, just ridiculous). The DJ paid fees to be able to play the music, and they expect the restaurant to also pay fees?

I stopped reading after this because you didn't follow the link or read the text. The DJ paid the same fee you do for a CD. Period. End of story. (S)He may have paid for the PA equipment as well. That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that someone is using this for entertainment in his place of business as a way to encourage more business.

[Having now taken the moment to read your piss poor analogy, let me throw a more apt one at you]

It's more like if I write a book and then someone creates a movie from that book, should I have a right to proceeds from the movie? According to your analogy, I should just get nothing because the movie studio bought a single copy of my book, even though now, billions could have my story out there and, to many of them, a book that a movie they've seen isn't worth reading, so I shouldn't make money off of them.

I don't for a second believe that the DJ actually paid the fees, in fact, it seems the owner merely assumed (s)he did. And even if (s)he did, (s)he did so for performance within (her/)his own venue, as it's how (her/)his business has to be run. A restaurant owner who ignores this cost of doing business should get sued. The sad part is, it appears that this particular situation only came about because this owner refuses to be educated on his responsibilities and decided that settling didn't make sense. Hell, it seems like he didn't even seek out legal advice.

Comment: Re:How many times? (Score 5, Informative) 389 389

Unfortunately it's the responsibility of the venue to clear those licenses, not the DJ or other musicians. As ASCAP points out on their FAQS:

Some people mistakenly assume that musicians and entertainers must obtain licenses to perform copyrighted music or that businesses where music is performed can shift their responsibility to musicians or entertainers. The law says all who participate in, or are responsible for, performances of music are legally responsible. Since it is the business owner who obtains the ultimate benefit from the performance, it is the business owner who obtains the license. Music license fees are one of the many costs of doing business.

it's not the musicians, it's the business. Same reason (or should be, but often isn't) business owners charge a cover when music is being played in the venue (although, often times said cover is also paid to the musicians themselves).

Comment: Re:Capitalist logic (Score 1) 389 389

"How many times do they want to get paid for the stupid music?"

Dunno. How many times do you want to get paid for serving the same stupid meals?

Sure, we all hate the MAFIAA, but it's rather odd how you feel capitalism is suddenly a one-way street.

Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.. Each new meal requires new material, each play of a song does not.

If the DJ did indeed pay a fee to play said songs, then I don't see why another should be paid by the restaurant owner.

Odds are rather good that the DJ did not pay the fee that is associated with entertaining an audience. Most DJs are unaware that's any different from buying the CD itself.

The fact that he probably even advertised (not made clear FTA) that there was a DJ playing makes the restaurant far more culpable as an "entertainment" venue than merely a restaurant. As many other posters have pointed out, this was used as a form of entertainment and should be treated as such. I don't necessarily like the tactics, nor necessarily agree with the sum, but at least, for a change, the musician gets a solid chunk of it.

Comment: Re:How many times? (Score 1) 389 389

That's why you get your kitchen staff to wear earplugs and play the music loudly from there. At that point, it's for the staff's enjoyment, and not as an entertainment draw for the restaurant/bar (legally speaking). I don't necessarily agree with the way this one works, but I do see benefits to the fact that the musician is actually make some semblance of money off of these deals, unlike the record labels.

Comment: Re:Interesting person (Score 2) 284 284

I'm reading the comment your replied again and again. I literally see nothing wrong with it and nothing to prompt such a...harsh response. He's a religious nut. By all means, everything I've ever seen pertaining to him indicates this. I don't understand where your rant is coming from. Even my most adamantly religious friends consider this guy a nut...
Yahoo!

Yahoo Killing Maps, Pipes & More 176 176

alphadogg writes: Yahoo is shutting down its mapping service, Pipes and reducing the availability of Yahoo TV and Yahoo Music. The company has decided instead to focus on three major parts of its business: search, communications, and digital content. "We made this decision to better align resources to Yahoo's priorities as our business has evolved since we first launched Yahoo Maps eight years ago," says the company.

Comment: Re:Yes, but can it launch Waze (Score 1) 235 235

But a native English speaker (are you?) is almost certainly going to pronounce "waze" identically to "ways".

Actually, no. At first glace I would pronounce it with a hard Z sound, more like "was".

Are you saying no to the (are you?) in the previous post? Because, like most native english speakers, I'd pronounce waze like daze, gaze, laze, blaze, haze, etc. Which is homophonic to ways.

Comment: Re:People still use that? (Score 2) 145 145

I'm actually with this AC. I haven't been on SF in probably 3-4 years. Back then I never had issues and would actually look for stuff on SF. Now I don't have as much downtime for that sort of work/play, so I haven't been on, but I'm about to have significantly more free time soon and thus this is a timely notification to stay away.

Comment: Re:A Nuclear power plant on your legs (Score 1) 179 179

The cost of implementing all of the power management for the optional 100W facilities will be non-trivial. Substantially more than barrel jack expecting a voltage a bit higher than the laptop's battery voltage. Posh laptops may support what you suggest but I doubt it will be a universal feature.

I'm confused, are you meaning that creating the power supply would be difficult or the internals of the laptop would be difficult? Because both of those exist already (granted, not necessarily at 100W), as evidence by a few different products. It took a while for USB 3 to come to budget oriented devices as well.

Comment: I agree and disagree (Score 4, Interesting) 189 189

I love Steve. He's freaking ridiculous. I've known him for a few years. That being said, he's a niche at best. I've never agreed that he is the mainstay, nor that his mentality is even remotely standard for the industry, but I love the way he goes. He's literally never taken "points" (percentage points) as a producer of a song/album. He sees it as he gets paid out right for it and that's that. I love that about this guy!

I can't say I agree that his mentality of musicians not holding copyright is normal or correct, but I respect the guy and love seeing him and his articles/arguments.

Comment: Re:outrageous (Score 0) 363 363

Still we're talking non-violent crimes... Compare this to the money laundering schemes many major American banks have been fined for... But in which no criminal persecution took place.

So where does selling a fake passport to a murderer or a rapist come in on your scale of "non-violent crimes"? I'm not saying that the stupid regulations about the banks aren't as screwed up or moreso, I'm just saying that there's plenty of things going on beyond the sale of those drugs that seem to be the only thing anyone cares about.

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