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Comment Re: I'd be wary of Musk, too (Score 1) 103'>for numbers not much better in 2015, they are at 10,600 for first 9 months. And with sales of 2-3000 for the 2 summers months. And that was before the diesel issue was shown. My guess is that will jump them up to 3-4000 / month rather quickly.

Comment Re: He gets stuff done, making others look bad (Score 1) 103

Being profit driven is great when it is long-term. Short-term profits are normally done for stock manipulation so that the executives can sell their options (and this is a disaster to the companies).
However, Musk is NOT profit driven. He is goal driven, of which the making of profits is a side-effect, not the ONLY goal.

Comment Re: I'd be wary of Musk, too (Score 1) 103

The demand is outstripping their supply. Right now, if they could product 250,000 MS, they would be able to sell it just in America and Europe ALONE. In fact, what keeps Mercedes S-class from dropping massively is the fact that tesla can NOT produce enough. OTOH, all of the other competition has dropped massively in America and Europe.

Comment Re: He gets stuff done, making others look bad (Score 2) 103

You think that 100% of spacex's money for the manned system is the feds? You must be with Boeing or l-mart ( 1 step below k-mart ). Boeing had over 620 million, while spacex is less than 540 million. In addition, Boeing gets 4.6 billion contract to finish it out and launch twice. Spacex gets 2.6b to finish it out and 3 flights. Spacex is putting a lot of their money into this. Boeing? Not a penny.

Comment Re: I'd be wary of Musk, too (Score 1) 103

And yet, Google and apple, amongst others would gladly buy them. However, there is little doubt that Tesla will be profitable in 2 years. The reason is that they will be producing at around 100,000 cars by end of 2016 and when model 3 hits, should be able to do 150-200k just on model S and X. Combine with an easy rampup of 50-100k M3 just for the first year, and we are looking at over 300k by end of 2017. Interestingly, that will put them on the same tract as Ford did, and ahead of Hyundai, who had massive subsidies.

Comment Re: I'd be wary of Musk, too (Score 1) 103

Outside of making money on minor subsidies? Well, he is the one that brought banking to the net, which really allowed for commercialism on it; He is one of, if not the, largest installer, and owner of solar. In addition, his new factory going up in new York should produce highest efficiency, lowest costs panels by end of 2017; his Tesla is the reason why electric vehicles are taking off. In fact, it is the shear fright of model 3 that caused Europe to walk away from their plans for hydrogen vehicles; and of course, spacex has singlehandley caused the price of rocket launches to plummet. Russians, Europeans, and American launch systems have had no choice but to drop their prices and get massive subsidies to compete against minor subsidized spacex. But hey, I doubt you wanted facts here.

Comment Not the first full recovery from space (Score 1) 121

SpaceShip One touched space and all elements were recovered and flew to space again.

BO's demonstration is more publicity than practical rocketry. It doesn't look like the aerodynamic elements of BO's current rocket are suitable for recovery after orbital injection, just after a straight up-down space tourism flight with no potential for orbit, just like SpaceShip One (and Two). They can't put an object in space and have it stay in orbit. They can just take dudes up for a short and expensive view and a little time in zero gee.

It's going to be real history when SpaceX recovers the first stage after an orbital injection, in that it will completely change the economics of getting to space and staying there.

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