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Comment: Problem already solved (Score 4, Insightful) 457

by WOOFYGOOFY (#47677143) Attached to: Web Trolls Winning As Incivility Increases

This problem is already solved. It's called the "ignore user " button. Push it and you no longer see the posts from the offending troll. Troll can see your posts, but you can't see theirs. So troll has unpleasant (for a troll) experience of seeing a conversation carried on as though what he was posting simply didn't exist, because it didn't for anyone who regarded him as a troll.

If a troll is like porn, we know it when we see it, then this solution works very well. Everyone sees and ignores the troll, depriving the troll of their motivation for trolling in the first place.

The only problem we have is sites don't use the available technology.

I have been on sites where this virtually eliminated the troll problem. Of course the automated accounts that are spamming viagra require something else, but that is not what the article was complaining about. The article was complaining about civility.

I really have to wonder if there are ulterior motivations at work here. Trolls are the new "we must save our children" rallying cry, an argument designed to force people into ID ing themselves, tagging themselves as "legitimate" so they can be better tracked and monetized. I feel like these pieces are set pieces, ready to roll out as soon as their beneficiaries and creators think their might be some temporary, rising sentiment against anonymity on the web.

Current example- Robin William's daughter's recent Twitter experience.

Sure, a troll gets one off but that is all anyone will see of him.

There is no free speech without anonymity and giving it up because some asshole made someone cry is ceding my freedom to assholes. That wont' be happening.

Comment: It makes sense. (Score 1) 120

by WOOFYGOOFY (#47555125) Attached to: When Spies and Crime-Fighters Squabble Over How They Spy On You
It makes sense, right? From the pov of the natsec people, these things help them secure the nation against potentially catastrophic attacks. From the pov of the LEOs , these represent the natural progression of tools they use to catch some pretty dangerous people, some of whom may also represent a significant danger to the nation, so why should they be deprived of their utility? Both sides can only be expected to strongly advocate for their side. You need 3rd party adjudication in this scenario. In general, we need much more serious 3rd party involvement in all of this spy tech. The FISA court really is nothing but a rubber tamp composed of people who have very narrow real world experience but for whom 'the system' has never given the slightest hiccup on their , largely unearned rise to power. They're political hacks, appointees lifted into place because, well, someone has to be so lifted and they never rendered any offense and they expressed the right political opinions to the right people at the right time. They think the system is just dandy- worked for them! We desperately need the NSA and the FBI to be doing their jobs with all the tech we can give them. Turf and tech wars WILL happen between well intentioned parties. That's a given. What we're missing is real, wise oversight and refereeing such that the public and both parties ultimately have real faith in the reasoning by those overseers. Really, the NSA scandal is scandal of the FISA court process. It's composed of intellectual lightweights and cowards and a few rich little girls whose chief unconscious guiding principle is they want BigMen to protect them so they can go on living their posh lives, feted and paid attention to by the powerful at clinking cocktail parties because, hey, that's what civilization is about. Get judge Richard Posner in there. Get some people who have well considered povs and a well developed sense of statesmanship and what it means to be a nation of people, rights, laws, threats and tradeoffs needed to make it all work. Of course LE grabs for everything it can. If it were your job, so would 99,999 out of 100,000 of you too. The kind of reticence and carefulness to maximizing your own advantage at the cost of some encroachment of an abstraction like civil liberties does not exist in enough people to populate the NSA so that the jobs get done. It's just not many hmans are. Thats why we have to look to oversight. Get some hardcore civil libertarians and hardcore natsec hawks into the process. It will work itself out. The civil libertarians will come to see that the worst form of civil rights violation is everyone is dead, and the natsecs will come to see that a nation that devoles into a version of 1984 is not a goal worth protecting, in fact, just the opposite. As it is, the executive looks for every fakey boo hoo slip of the tongue reason to jail or administratively silence just the people whose pov we need as input in oversight and the civil libertarians are just clueless wrt to the seriouness of the threats we face and conclude , wrongly, that the NSA has gone mad with power and has installed the Constitution as toilet paper in their bathrooms. It's a failure to maintain the necessary diversity of opinions and a failure of wise adjudication of those opinions. That's our problem.

Comment: Software patents (Score 1) 818

by WOOFYGOOFY (#46776021) Attached to: Study Finds US Is an Oligarchy, Not a Democracy

`Software patents are a near perfect example of what this paper is talking about. Few, if any, programmers want them. These are "the people" who best understand the issue and are most strongly (and detrimentally) effected by it.

The elites at the top of the corporate hierarchy have another view on the matter, and are able to press their POV through lobbying Congress, printing articles, hobnobbing with justices and paying for lawyers, which has created a ton of case law favoring their position.

Established players, the billionaire set, want them to use as a club against any upstarts who presume to enter the market their class's permission; without the financial backing of the elites - the investor class, the "angel investors" or the name brand investment capital groups.

Software patents are nothing more than a modern ofrm of feudalism, where the rich create the laws which protect and legitimize their power positions.

I am afraid that SCOTUS is not giving any signals that it's going to really decide the issue broadly. All signs are for a narrow ruling, which would leave the current system intact.

But this issue is EXACTLY what the paper is talking about. Decissions that are 1) bad for society broadly 2) bad for the average working person 3) hold an outsized benefit for the elites and also works to consolidate and legitimate their power and wealth.

So its not even an abstract thing in our own little world, It's completely in-your-face, a straight up fuck you.

Comment: Re:Oh shuit up you just hate frreedom (Score 1) 290

You're so fucking stupid and disengaged that you don't know the difference between the carbon cycle of living animals and plants and the mega tons of carbon that we're exhuming and igniting into the atmosphere, carbon which has been buried for millions of years . You don't know this because you could give a shit about even the most basic facts about which you boldly (AC) hold forth and in which hangs the balance of mere survival for all future generations and civilization itself. And I'm a troll.

Comment: Re:Not even close to the worst. (Score 0, Troll) 290

Yeah you don't see one and you've been looking so hard and evaluating all the options. Here's a hint ANY option beats extinction.

Look up the "princeton wedges" concept. A combination of extant technologies and policies can stop us, right now, from the point of no return. It's not a technological question looking for a fix, it's a socio-political blockage on the part of American / Australian and UK conservatives all fueled by the denial industry which is funded by Exxon, the Koch brothers and the rest of the oil and gas industry.

BTW, each and every member of their boards might want to look over the Nuremberg trials to see what civilization DOES to people who think that 1) they're beyond the law or 2) since no law currently explicitly prevents them from doing what they're doing, they're forever beyond the reach of justice.

America will dissolve your assets. We'll seize your assets from your heirs and assignees. We'll nationalize your companies and plow the profits into doing whatever we need to do to survive. You're nothing,and America and her people are everything. In fact, you're less than nothing.

As for the mouthpieces of denial, the "think tanks" and "scientists" and PR firms don't kid yourselves. We'll hunt each and every one of you down to the ends of the earth, no matter how long it takes, no matter the cost. Rest assured the thoughts and beliefs you have which cause you to think that you'll never be brought to justice, because "you're entitled to your opinion" , because you "really believed it" because you still "really believe it", rest assured that all of that will be swept aside in a torrent of rage and justice seeking and that loophole in the law you think will save from justice will turniinto a noose just like it did at Nuremberg.

Hear my voice Exxon board? This is the first few faint strains of all that the future holds for you, your heirs, your power and your wealth, your influence and lifestyle. This is just the first tiniest brush stroke of what the future looks like for each of you personally. This is just the smallest , faintest sampling of THE RAGE.

Guess what happens when civilization starts to collapse first for a few small countries, then poor people in cities, then millions in larger cities and the countryside then tens of millions then billions of people? Guess what happens when you and the cock sucking sycophants you've populated Washington with *no longer hold any power* ? Guess that's pretty much a mere fiction , an impossibility to you.

The way Nuremberg was to that other group of mass murderers.

If I were a lawyer, PR agent, accountant , printer, developer, manager, or donation taker I'd start now , today to make pains to put on a VERY public display that you strongly disapprove the Koch - Exxon denial machine and YOU aren't taking money from them in ANY form. Yeah, I'd be thinking hard about whether I wanted to be associated however faintly, with the Great American Denial Machine. I'd be thinking about my future and what my family thinks of me, and what I was doing to them, in, and to you know, reality and the earth where they're going to have to spend the rest of their time.

Comment: Re:Not even close to the worst. (Score -1, Flamebait) 290

ah fucking men. Lioterlaly, American conservatives are en route to murdering more people than Hitler Stalin Pol Pot and Mao put together. Oh, but they don't believe it. So that makes it alright. Because if I walk into a crowded burning theater of 7 billion people and shout "no fire" it's OK... because I really believe it. The way Manson really believed it was his destiny to start an American race war by slaughtering innocent people and making it look like black people did it. That's OK, because, you know he really believed it. Like Jim Jones really believed it.

This THIS is what you get when you tell people that the surest way to evaluate reality is to look inside your own heart and pray for guidance. Because, you know, what's in your own "heart" is not a bunch of projections of your own egotism, fears and greedy impulses, oh hell no, if you're pure, that's where God lives and it's God's voice that's talking to you, not all that unconscious stuff left over from evolution, which isn't real anyways.

Comment: Oh shuit up you just hate frreedom (Score 4, Insightful) 290

You just hate freedom. You want to take away my right to pollute the atmosphere so badly that it causes massive socio-political upheaval s around the world completely re-ordering the geopolitical landscape , uniting our enemies and making new ones under a unified belief that THIS is what America did to us, unleashing waves of suicide terrorism both abroad and domestically, all fueled by the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocent people, and unified by the theme that "this (desertification, devastating ocean rise unsurvivable heat waves, crop failures and finally, the death of large ocean life as the acidification takes out the lowest levels of the oceanic food pyramid, causing all above to collapse - THIS is what America did to us".

You just hate America and you're against freedom. That's all.

Comment: This is the whole thing with GMO (Score 1) 259

by WOOFYGOOFY (#46523933) Attached to: Overuse of Bioengineered Corn Gives Rise To Resistant Pests

It doesn't exempt itself from evolution. So the question we need to be asking ourselves is, WHEN pests evolve to thwart GMO "innovations" what might those pests be able to DO how BAD will THAT be and how are we going to deal with it and how quickly can we react what happens to the food supply if we CAN'T?

Comment: Because all too often, devs are assholes (Score 4, Insightful) 162

by WOOFYGOOFY (#46523645) Attached to: Full-Disclosure Security List Suspended Indefinitely

This is what we were talking about yesterday regarding the github brouhaha . Assholism amongst the dev community appears to be so high that, statistically speaking , the odds of being able to run a site like this one, or say have a decent working atmosphere tends to zero once the company is big enough or the site is popular enough.

For significant public-interest websites, you somehow need a serious source of funding just for maintenance work to counter the effects of assholes. For companies, they're basically pirate ships populated by people who think of themselves as laws unto themselves, as glorious buccaneers . The lesson of git hub and this guy is simple. Software devs are just as bad as anyone in Exxon . They'll drop trou and take a gigantic dump on any aspect of the social contract they want to the moment it suits them.

I am not saying this is in contrast to some golden bygone era of civility. People have always been like this. Well, for a while in software development, before Bill Gates started sending out cease and desist legal notices to people who were copying the software he copied from CPM , there was s kind of golden era perhaps. But then Lucky Autisim Boy started to make real money at Microsoft and then IBM decided to start getting software patents en masse and civility retreated to the borders of academic research . Now it appears that's gone also.

We're not better and we're not going to be the ones to usher in a new way of dealing with our fellow humans. What we know for sure now is that just like our most successful exemplars, Jobs and Gates, we're as exploitative, opportunistic amoral and dehumanizing as the next industry. And that's a little sad.

Comment: Fucking good idea (Score -1, Troll) 86

by WOOFYGOOFY (#46518983) Attached to: New Stanford Institute To Target Bad Science

It's a fucking good idea and one that's LONG overdue. Huh wonder why it took so long for researchers to think of it , especially since literally every other conceivable aspect of reality, meta-reality and hyper-meta-reality has been plumbed.

Next up, journal of completely worthless careers spent discovering trivial "effects" within say, Human Computer Interface "research" that just don't matter , at all.

After that let's start a record of lectures by professors' that are actually, really, I mean in reality, incomprehensible because most of the language constructs they're forming literally make no sense even to experts ion their field or are just plain factually wrong or are merely recitations of advanced findings in their fields offered without first introducing basic concepts or how about professors who make it an art to rummage around in the theoretical junk bin delivering lectures about theories no one including themselves believes at all. That's a special one too. l Loved it when i mentioned mid lecture that something about the theory didn't seem right and my prof answered "just one thing?" and then toddled on through the whole landscape the rest of the semester.

Fucking college is a scam where the admin and profs suck the financial life out of their unwitting students like vampires and then leave their victims to wander, the financial undead, trying to pay off the student loans which finance their professors' lavish and hypercompensated lifestyles:

Comment: Slashdot response to this article (Score 2) 710

From the book : The No Assholer Rule

Their (assholes) unpleasant behaviours were catalogued by Sutton as The Dirty Dozen:[6]

        Violation of personal space
        Unsolicited touching

looks like she pretty much got a clean sweep of all available asshole behaviors. That deserves some kind of award.

Sorry but her story has the ring of truth for anyone in the industry more than a five years. Companies are by and large run the way a pirate ship is run and guess what, they're happily populated by would-be buccaneers who have a pirate's lawless and coersive mentality. Arbitrary authority, nepotism, verbal abuse, threats, intimiddation, you know, the above list.

What's REALLY enlightening here its to filter slashdot comments by their ratings. Filtering for "5" comments yields not the usual collection of insightful or funny stuff you want to read and reflect on because it's obviously drawn from personal experience, but rather abusive and or jocularly dismissive "rebuttals" to her story, myopically focused on some detail (hula hoops !) many of them authored by Anonymous Cowards who, presumably, started with scores of zero and "earned" their way to the top, despite the self imposed filter bubble of most readers.

I take this to mean one of a number of things. Github aficionados friends and supporters know how to jack the ratings system of Slashdot when the cause suits them. Slashdot is primarily populated by just the kind of knuckleheads the article's author is complaining about or the article itself did not attract the attention of people who accepted the headline as truthfuil and accurate, as if the headline had been: "Politicians are liars" claims small time campaign donor !

At any rate, as it stands, it's an interesting glimpse into Slashdot "culture" as it presents itself in reaction to this particular article at least. Not my tribe, that's for sure.

Comment: Not surprising- sexism is a form of assholism (Score 1) 710

I am not saying my experience is despositive, but i have never worked with a group of developers in which assholism was not the order of the day. Since sexism is a form of assholism, then it's not surprising this is what she experienced.

And it's not just developers. When NASA sent up astronauts in the beginning, one of the first theigs they discovered was that sending up teams of three was a mistake *because two of them would would gang up on the remaining one* .and that represents the behavior of high functioning , high intelligence success stories.

AFAIK no one has stuidied how to identify and join groups which are not domionated by assholes or how to stop your group from devloving into a pit of vipers. aIt's a topic worthy of investigation, that's for sure. I know people who joined non- profits just to try to get away from assholism. I don't know if it worked or not for them.

For the record, assholism has been given a two part test (from Wikipedia's article on the book "The No Assoles Rule"

1 After encountering the person, do people feel oppressed, humiliated or otherwise worse about themselves?

    2 Does the person target people who are less powerful than him/her?

We'll have to see what she does in the future to asee how she solves this problem for herself. I have no solutions except two-person companies. I wonder if any readers who share this interpretatiion of these events have ideas.
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Comment: And it will be made more revealing at time goes on (Score 1) 193

For instance, for no good reason, stories I send to myself via the "share" button on a lot of sites have an overly descriptive "header" in them that basically reveals the entire content and tone and POV of the article. It's more descriptive than even the headline. I am not comfortable with this. so I take the time to change the header to something like "read later".

Once companies get keyed into the "public nature" of metadata, - if they aren't already - believe that they will generate the most revealing metadata they possibly can for whoever pays them to do so.

Metadata is often talked about as though it were all just naturally occurring phenomena , like the particular mineral content of water in your area and we're all standing around going "golly, look at what can be teased out of this here bit of nature " when in fact it's a human controlled creation which can be engineered just as humans see fit.

We can predict everything, except the future.