It's not a question of that, it's a question of wholesale exportation of jobs overseas to get 1) cheaper labor 2) avoid government regulation 3) dodge taxes. There's lots of reasons why things cost more to produce in some countries vs. others. Because kids are small, they can get into small areas so why not use them in the manufacturing process for say ships? I can see Korean kids getting into all of those nooks and small areas. That's a niche market isn't it?

It's not like it hasn't all been done before.

I'm not arguing against globalization, far from it. US Consumers have also wrought most of this on themselves because that $19.99 thing from China is a must have item or a new Walmart opened up down the street so everybody has to shop there. Competition is healthy when everybody is playing by the same rules, not when one country dumps products and blocks its markets from US product . Or when it happens in other economic areas.. surprise!.

So, greed is everywhere from the consumer to the companies that export jobs to nations with policies to undermine entire industries. It's time people woke up and started smelling the cat shit otherwise it'll be cat food that you'll be eating when you get too old and can't retire comfortably.

I remember back in Elementary school watching the Hale telescope mirror movie. One of those old 16mm, rainy day, hell the teacher has to have a cigarette break flicks? Old black and white footage is available here: http://archive.org/details/capsca_00001

Anyway, when they shipped the blank out to Caltech by Train it was put in a steel case. The Blank was then polished at Caltech to make the 200" mirror for the telescope and that was shipped via truck to Palomar Mountain. Anyway, they put it in a special casing for shipment and when they arrived at Palomar, they found bullet holes in the casing. Even back then, the local Luddites just wanted to spoil the fun. Anyway, my point is here that if they could ship a 200 inch mirror in the early part of the 20th century, they should be able to easily transport a 15mm magnet that's hollow in the middle.

Preferably an IRS Data center, that would be uber cool.

Uhm, like General Petraeus, former head of the CIA?

Seriously, if our head of the top spy agency in this country is that stupid, how stupid do you think the rest of the diplomatic or legislative folks are in DC?

okay, I'll bite.

I used to buy T-Shirts made in the USA, but I can't anymore because most of the garment workers in this country were laid off because of imports that were dumped into this country. Does anybody remember the "Look for the Union Label commericals?"
There was a place called the Garment District in NYC, thousands of workers making clothes for the US consumer. That's gone.

Jeans? Humm, Levi Strauss stopped making jeans in this country back in the 80s. So, you're right I can't get Levi's but Wranglers AFAIK are still made in the US.

Cars? humm yeah let's see I have a car made in Australia out of mostly GM parts as well as an American Made Ford with 30% offshored components.

DVD players? Yeah that business went first to Japan then to China and now Korea has it's part in it. But you used to get JVC, Panasonic and other brands of electronics made in the US.

The main argument companies held up was that "it costs more to make things in the US." Well that might be true, but I don't see countries like Germany or Japan allowing wholesale exportation of their core jobs. Most of these companies went to places where buildings burn to the ground taking hundreds of garment workers to their graves. Not because it was cheap, that was a factor, but they didn't have to deal with trade unions or federal regulations. Remember Nike and all the hoopla regarding the child labor practices? Yeah I'll buy those Air Jordans built on the backs of little kids. Not!

Not everybody in the US will be a Lawyer (god we have enough all ready) or a Doctor (we have a doctor shortage thanks to the AMA and the Feds) so where will the middle class work? Let's see, Manage a McDonalds? Burger King? You want fries with that? I'd willingly, willingly I say, pay a few bucks more for something that is of good quality made in the US, and I do.

Also, we did have a PC industry here, crap it started here. While I was in college, I worked laying out Circuit Boards that were used in Mini, Micro and Mainframes. Sure there were components from overseas but price isn't the only driver, sometimes you have to keep your neighbor employed too. Anybody remember Hayes modems? Those weren't Hyunayes. Also, Dell still isn't dead either!

LOL, I miss K street. Thing is one time I was going through town late one night in a cab. We were going up North Capitol to my apartment (way north of the letter streets) and when we got to M street I remember the Crack Whore coming up and banging on the driver door. The driver just sped off. Great place DC, especially late at night.

Both Wipro and Infosys are the worst in terms of H1-B visa abuse and should not be allowed to operate in this country.

http://profit.ndtv.com/news/industries/article-us-senator-accuses-infosys-wipro-tcs-of-abusing-h-1b-visas-321282

But, unfortunately they're connected with Washington's elite and throw money around in DC to keep things like the H1-B program alive. Remember that during the next election cycle.

Had to be a mod one with the expansion interface.. those were the days.. buzz whirr click. and OMG the old cassette tape drives were horrible.

You forgot Lunar Lander...

I used to be a Student Admin on an HP 2000 in College. We spent our days getting rid of "Trek" programs because the Hard Drive was only 15MB.

er, well it's not just being used for guns..

http://venturebeat.com/2012/12/01/future-3d-printer-sex-toys/

bahahahahahahahahaha

Crashing clients, lost messages and since you mention it disappearing calendar events and worse yet, horrible support. I realize it's the only thing that's keeping that happy valley company alive but it sucked, probably still does. It's been about 8 years since I've worked with it and I avoid it like Democratic Fundraisers. It may have gotten better but I'll believe that when Barbara Streisand's nose gets smaller. There's a reason that Exchange has taken everybody's lunch money (although that's fading now a bit thank god.)

Not on IBM PCs but there were other brands out there that had the 8 1/2" floppy drives.. 5 1/4 was new-fangled stuff. I had a DEC Rainbow 100 with 5 1/4 and 8" floppy drives. The 8" was for DEC 10s and 20s for bootloader mods for the PDP 11/40 front ends.

Groupwise IMO was worse.. Far worse.

Not Blücher? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdIID_TGwhM

Given the standards organizations' propensity to drag things out (802.11n anyone? (7 years)) This is nice from a research perspective but probably years away from having practical equipment you can use.

Why not FSO, or microwave? Running wireless at long distances has already been done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-range_Wi-Fi If you look at that long range Wi-Fi link, those are some substantial distances. Sure, not 1Gbps but they work.

I have a customer with an openWRT setup running 802.11a at 1/2 mile, un-amplified with off the shelf antennas. That's basically, off-the-shelf running in already allocated spectrum.

Of course if you're looking for very low cost, you can get IP running on waxed string. (I remember seeing a demonstration at INTEROP where IP communications occurred over a piece of string between two systems.)