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Comment: Re:So stream it... (Score 1) 586

by Vintermann (#48624019) Attached to: Top Five Theaters Won't Show "The Interview" Sony Cancels Release

If it was a movie critical of North Korea, that would send a message. But it seems it's just a none-too-deep Hollywood comedy.

What they might do instead, is sponsor a documentary highlighting the dictators' long history of "air nut" behavior and the horrors of their prison state.

Comment: Re:Why does this need a sequel? (Score 2) 299

by Vintermann (#48593633) Attached to: Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

In PKDs story, Deckard is human, end of story. A main point of the book is that the androids really are bad: Even though they can be vulnerable and afraid (Pris Stratton) make great art (Luba Luft), or even fall in love with each other (Roy and Irmgard Baty), they ultimately all are true psychopaths, without a hint of compassion or concern for other people except for their own benefit.

In the book, the idea of an android having false memories implanted and believing itself to be human is a ruse: The Rosen Association claims it about Rachael, but actually she knows perfectly well that she's an android. At another point, the androids go to ridiculous lengths to fool Phil Resch, a somewhat cynical bounty hunter, that he is an android. But they fail.

Of course what a Hollywood director does in his film is his own business. But I'd like to see a dramatization that was more faithful, and went into the moral and religious aspects of the story.

Comment: Re:Don't foget (Score 1) 186

by Vintermann (#48571055) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

Well, then that takes away the main reason to play Nethack - modest as it was in the first place.
I held out hope for Nethack for a long time, but it hasn't been developed in over ten years. The indie/roguelike scene has moved on, and improved immensely.

There are better options today, on just about any criteria.

Comment: Re:Don't foget (Score 1) 186

by Vintermann (#48570683) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

I never said it was the defining feature. I'd say it is the most important, along with randomization.

Have you noticed there are very few games being made nowadays that are three lives, game over, start from the beginning?

Let's call a game that is real time, has permadeath but not random levels "arcade hard". ("Nintendo hard" is a misnomer, Nintendo had far more non-arcade hard games than the competitors, and were among the first to challenge arcade assumptions of what a game should look like)

I propose that if you hate roguelikes, you probably also hate arcade hard games, and vice versa. I guess you have some people fond of twitch reactions and memorized timings who like hard but don't like randomness - in the speedrun crowd, maybe.

Comment: Re:Don't foget (Score 1) 186

by Vintermann (#48563813) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

DCSS is what replaced Nethack for me. DCSS is every inch as hard, but fairer than Nethack: spoilers will do you little good, boring/cheesy tactics (e.g. grinding) won't help, and you won't die from misclick-type errors as often. Best of all, it has variation in the endgame, since you need three runes to win but there are fifteen in existence. Once you're able to win the game at all, you can start pushing your luck in the extended endgame by getting more runes before doing Zot.

I'm a bit skeptical of the changes made in recent years, though. A lot of the coherence of Linley's design has been eroded along with the improvements.

Comment: Re:Don't foget (Score 2) 186

by Vintermann (#48563399) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

DF is a roguelike too.

Adventure mode fits all the common criteria for being a roguelike:

* Permadeath
* Procedurally generated world/levels
* One character
* strictly turn-based.

Fortress mode fails criterion 3 and 4, and is such in the same pseudo-roguelike genre as Faster Than Light (roughly). Whether you consider that a roguelike, is a a matter of quibbling about definitions.

Comment: Re:One of the few games with incredible imaginatio (Score 2) 186

by Vintermann (#48562671) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

but at the heart nethack is a memorization and risk minimization game.

Yep, and this is why it's not a very good design. In a good roguelike, decisions should be situational: there should be different approaches you can take, and risk/reward tradeoffs so that a good played can take chances when behind, and play it safe when ahead. Nethack has very few meaningful strategic decisions. Crawl/DCSS had the right idea when they aggressively stripped "no-brainer" and counterintuitive decisions from the game.

(Among the counterintuitive things in Nethack that I remember: Level scaling, i.e. you don't want to get your level too high too early. All priests, even the priest of Moloch, you can donate to for divine blessing without your god getting pissed at you)

Comment: Re:Don't foget (Score 4, Interesting) 186

by Vintermann (#48562633) Attached to: NetHack: Still One of the Greatest Games Ever Written

These days, you can pretty much skip nethack... Rogue and Hack were the originals. Nethack was a modest extension of Hack, which had a brief injection of popular culture tropes before being abandoned by its dev team in about 2003. For the progression of the roguelike genre (conservative or extended) , it hasn't directly mattered in a long time. The only modern game I can think of that draws directly on Nethack lore is Spelunky.

More important roguelikes for today's games: Dwarf Fortress, Linley's Dungeon Crawl/DCSS

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