Fuck. This is one more thing I have to say. In Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home, Spock becomes a hero archetype like Gandalf or Jesus. I keep trying to see Kirk as a hero character, but I just can't. Even though he's Kirk and he's supposed to be. But he just isn't. It's like we need to form some kind of angry mob to kidnap Abrams and make him watch Joseph Campbell documentaries over and over again like in Clockwork Orange.

Note: Read that entire post in the voice of Dr. Girlfriend. Thanks. I won't be here all day, though, because I have to do something to unsee that movie. Even Mega Shark vs. Giant Squid was better than that movie.

Ok, I'll bite.

My problem with the movie was that it was essentially Wrath of Khan done by Asylum.

I mean, seriously. There are action sequences for no good reason. Basic physics are wrong that I would expect any mediocre "in space" movie to get right like Sunshine or Event Horizon.

I agree with your point about music. Hipsters are incredibly annoying. I'll even go out on a limb. I like Hit Me Baby One More Time because it just has such of a strange post-feminist resignation to female sexuality. I also liked the 2009 movie. Sure, red matter left a lot to be desired, but I didn't complain about all the times main power was rerouted through the deflector dish to emit an anti-dekyon burst at 5 second intevals.

I also agree with other sentiments in this thread that TOS is overrated. While Star Trek II-IV are two masterpieces with a sort of lame film to bridge the middle, my favorite series are TNG, VOY, and ENT. Hell, my favorite captain right now is Janeway followed by Archer. TOS was ok, and it had its moments. However, it was a product of its time, and while progressive at the time, one needs to distance oneself a bit from certain scenes especially concerning women and sexuality.

I guess to get back to my point, Into Darkness really is like watching Asylum remake Wrath of Khan. It opens with what might as well be the last 10 minutes of an episode of a TV show where the Enterprise is sent to survey a planet only to find that it's on the brink of a volcanic ice age (yes, I know, I'm assuming and making shit up because it's never explained how or why that supervolcano will kill all intelligent life on that planet). Afterwards, as I watched the interaction between Pike and Kirk, I thought, ok, this is where the movie takes off. Obviously Kirk has been raised by an abusive stepfather in the alternate timeline, so it makes sense for Pike to fill the vacuum of a male role model to turn Kirk into the man he's destinted to become. But no. Pike's dead in the first half hour. For some fucking reason we have to go to Kronos. Then merely blowing up a few "D4s" is enough to send the entire Empire scurrying away with its tail between its legs. Then we're still in the neutral zone and we're supposed to have some kind of suspense because of how mad and how bad these Klingons are supposed to be. WHERE ARE THEY? THEY NEVER EVEN SHOW UP?!

So, basically, the movie makes no sense on its own terms. It needs you to know that Klingons are a threat and that being inside the neutral zone is serious business. There is no reason for the entire trip to Kronos. The movie could have worked without it.

Then there's the whole remake of Spock's death with the turnabout that it's now Kirk's death. Every time I watch Wrath of Khan, I cry when Spock dies. It's one of the most artistic fantasy death scenes I can think of, next to when Darth Vader dies in Return of the Jedi. Unfortunately, the scene was so forced with such klunky, stupid foreshadowing, that by the time Kirk was dying behind the glass doors, Quinto's Spock was the only one in the WHOLE DAMNED THEATER who was crying.

This film is just simply an abomination. It's ADD explosions every 5 minutes for no damned reason. It's a romantic comedy where the autistic reboot Spock is trying to appease the ever so bitchy reboot Uhura and reboot sex machine zero romance Kirk is caught in the middle.

Then there's Dr. Carol Marcus. I know that she's supposed to be the love interest for Kirk, but how the hell would somebody who didn't remember from Wrath of Khan that they had a child ever divine that from the movie? She's just yet another sexy chick in a long line of "ladies" that Kirk's fucked.

Now, there could have been a plot point. This Kirk obviously has some kind of sex addiction presumably to fill the hole in his life left by being fatherless. But no. Fuck no. Fuck any kind of compelling character development or character depth.

Every single character in Into Darkness is a 1 dimensional sterotype, even Ambassador Spock. I felt like the scene where young Spock calls up Ambassador Spock was too much like just going out to GameFAQS to get the answer key for some boss you can't figure out the trick to beat. It was just a massive WTF.

Like, for example, Super 8 was obviously a rip off of Stephen King's It with ET plastered on the end, but it was at least a somewhat decent movie. I don't even know what to do with the dung heap of lens flares and explosions I watched last night.

Ok, I liked the 2009 film. I've admitted this before. Sure, eech, red matter, but it's not like Star Trek and all its dekyons and chronoton emissions and time travel is strict standard model physics. But, no. Sorry, no. You've lost me J. J.

Please go take a basic physics course if you wish to continue making Star Trek movies. You can have your red matter, but get the fucking basics right. Repeat after me: $f = ma$. $f_g = \frac{Gm_1m_2}{r^2}$. $ma = \frac{Gm_1m_2}{r^2}$. You see that? Let me illustrate. *A Klingon Bird of Prey decloaks off the port bow and fires disruptors with lens flares at the ms on both sides of the equation while the screen is shaking in a completely unnecessary 30 minute action sequence* $a =\textrm{---you're never going to believe this---}\frac{Gm_2}{r^2}$. Holy shit! You know what?! That means your whole fucking scene with the Enterprise falling into the Earth's gravity well from the fucking moon DOESN'T MAKE SENSE Or don't. Fuck. What do I care. Chewbacca is a wookie, but he lives on the planet Endor. This DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

Oh.. wait.. I hear you're going to do something or other with Chewy and Han and Luke. Well, maybe the Star Wars universe is more up your alley anyway.

I mean... if you managed to make a worse movie than Star Trek 5, that means you can't possibly make a worse movie than Phantom Menace. amirite? guys? guys?

But does this mean that having a female mind and a male reproductive system no longer means that I'm a serial killer who's constructing a woman suit? Does this mean when they scan my brain and find that it's psysiologically more female than male (these things aren't exact) that it just means that I'm a woman, not that I have a mental illness? What would we ever do if not for the DSM V? Thank you DSM V for acknowledging that being a woman is a mental illness! This post brought to you by b33r.

Am I supposed to believe that these poll results distinguish Palestine or Muslims from the rest of humanity negatively somehow?

Let me tell you, being transgendered, from over here all the Abrahamaic religions look pretty much the same and pretty much all equally morally bankrupt. Those survey results don't look much different from what I'd expect one would obtain by interviewing local Christians around here. Including things you've identified to attempt to make Islam look regressive by way of being misogynist. Christians around here believe the same things, although they have different clothing than hajibs they believe superstitious things about.

Misogyny runs rampant in Abrahamaic religions. Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam just have different ways of expressing it. At least the one thing all three can agree on is that, drawing from the ancient Greek myth, that it must be a woman who's responsible for all the evils of the world.

Guess what. Most of the world, at different times, has been ruled by different people. What do you think the native inhabitants of this continent [The Americas] might think about their Christian conquerors? At least, the ones that are left to speak.

I'm going to get modded flamebait for this, but I honestly believe it, and I've got the karma to burn. Israel couldn't have done better to take plays out of feminism's playbook. They're always history's perpetual victims. They're always morally perfect. It's all completely bullshit. It's a passive-aggressive appeal to white, male, and German guilt.

Israel has no right to exist. Yes, what happened during the holocaust was terrible, but the answer to evil isn't more evil.

Mod parent up. That is all.

Who are they?

Srsly, I once dated a guy who had food stamps. It was quite the nice budget. It made me wonder what a sucker I was when I was younger scraping by on ramen and working a job.

Oh wow. Excellent troll, sir. Appeal to authority and the whole nine yards.

*rummages around*

I know I've got some mod points around here somewhere.

but srsly

That's EXACTLY what we're suspecting.

Nicely played, sir. I got a giggle out of that this morning, especially considering that the Ada Initiative would have given you a creeper card for daring to utter a "rape trigger." Too bad nobody modded you up. I'd mod you up, but you'd need to create a time paradox where I never posted so I could use my mod points.

And yes, I posted before I had my tea. I should have replied to the guy who pointed out that this (among lots and lots of other things) pretty much debunks the myth that grrls and womyn-born-womyn somehow have a difficult time of things in IT with a "hear, hear!"

Zomg! Why didn't I think of that. I was taking estrogen when I was 19...

er...

shoot. Apparently you have to be a womyn-born-womyn.

You're both wrong. I was "gifted" as well. All that status did was alienate me from my peers and increase the difficulty of classes. There is no "gifted" diploma; all you get is the same piece of paper everyone else got. All that being "gifted" did was make something that should have been a breeze for me so I could focus on things that are naturally difficult for me, social interaction, into constant stress.

I pushed myself, took all kinds of AP classes, and for what? So I could have a lower GPA? No, being "gifted" is bunch of hogwash. I could have gotten a 4.0 if I'd taken slacker classes that might have given me a chance to develop a much more important life skill: being social.

Nobody asks for your GPA anyway in a job interview. Nobody cares what classes you took. All they care is that you have a college degree. Nobody gives you a "look at how smrt I am!" degree. You get a degree just like everyone else.

Advanced classes and the "gifted" status are wastes of time given how our society works.

You pay for a degree at a college, and it doesn't matter how you get it. Being "gifted" doesn't bump your resume ahead of anybody else's. Then you get a job, and how much you make has absolutely nothing to do with being "gifted" or which percentile you rank in. Being social instead of being a mentat, though, does matter. So screw the "gifted" status. I would have been better off taking the same damned classes as everyone else and having more friends rather than trying to turn myself into a mentat.

What about the hypocrisy of womyn-born-womyn to complain and bitch that men might have things to say about issues of "women's health" and "my body, my choice" when the womyn-born-womyn presumes that it's perfectly ok to speak authoritatively about issues of men's health?

My genitals were mutilated when I was born, and I suffered greatly. There was searing pain when I was young, and male adolescence was a painful, hellish torture. I nearly killed myself because of the physical pain.

In 2012, you womyn-born-womyn were shouting about how men have no right to speak about women's bodies. Why, then, did the womyn-born-womyn at the American Academy of Pediatrics flip-flop their position on routine infant male genital mutilation? Was it some feminist stunt to tell men, "Haha, I have my body, my choice, but we've already succeeded in painfully mutilating you at birth and cursing you to 19 years of intense physical pain that you even thought was normal for a man!"

No, I'll tell you what it was. When the CDC recommended vaccination of young girls against HPV, you womyn-born-womyn went ballistic. How dare the government give young girls a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease! How dare the innocence and sexual purity of young girls be questioned!

Yet, why do the womyn-born-womyn of the AAP want male infants mutilated? To protect from sexually transmitted diseases! Even a male infant is a rapist who deserves to be punished by painful mutilation!

What is the name and address of the woman I was punished for raping? Well, what is it. WHO DID I FUCKING RAPE TO DESERVE THAT TORTURE?!

You damned womyn-born-womyn owe every man and trans woman who has suffered from genital mutilation a big fucking explanation for your hypocrisy.

I have been reduced to my body parts and punished for a body part I hate having, that I have against my will at every stage of my life.

How could I ever see you womyn-born-womyn as individuals? You are all guilty, and if the world were just, it would be my right to cut off your clitoris so that you can know genital pain and almost complete loss of sensation except for the sensation of intense pain just as I do and then rape you as payback for all the times I have been presumed and outright called a rapist by you womyn-born-monsters..

Some of us would rather live in a just world, not some macho fantasy.

So, let me ask you this. How on earth am I supposed to do that when I'm treated as "all men" despite my body parts? How do I do that when I'm required to attend date rape and sexual harassment training on the basis of body parts I might have, things that presume me to be a pig and a rapist merely on the basis of body parts?

There are some things that have happened to recently that made me overhaul my worldview. Firstly, the gall of the womyn-born-womyn at the American Academy of Pediatrics telling men what body parts they should or should not have in the midst of womyn-born-womyn screaming about how inappropriate it was for men to talk about women's health was simply repugnant. Second was the Ada Initiative going around at hacker conventions sexually harassing men with creeper cards threatening violence, culminating in the censorship of a panel on sexuality that would have helped with the kind of harm reduction that the Ada Initiative claimed was the basis for threatening nut shots.

I had to ask myself: I know that womyn-born-womyn consider me to be a man despite all the reasons that's not correct, and instead womyn-born-womyn see me more in the light of Buffalo Bill, merely wearing a woman suit, merely mimicking like John Carpenter's The Thing rather than actually being. I know I am a woman because that's what I am. I can't change it. You can't change it. Feminism can't change it.

I work around women every day who believe that math is for boys only. Not only that, but they believe that math is just a stupid thing boys use to make them feel stupid.

I guess my question for you is how on earth I could ever see womyn-born-womyn as individuals when womyn-born-womyn are hell bent on painting anybody who, in their sole judgement, has some kind of male "stuff" about them as rapists?

How do I treat womyn-born-womyn as individuals when articles like this presume that the problem with women in IT is "all men?" How the hell am I supposed to do anything about the problem when my co-workers are teaching their daughters that math is hard and stupid and when womyn-born-womyn seek to reduce me to a body part I may or may not have and put this insolvable problem in my lap? How do I treat womyn-born-womyn as individuals when they're always screaming for a man to fix their own problems, even when it's a problem that no man and no amount of creeper cards can fix? How can I treat womyn-born-womyn as individuals when they paint me as "all men" and proceed to punish me for their own flaws and when they refuse to take responsibility for their self-made shortcomings?