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Submission Why NASA's road to Mars plan proves that it should return to the moon first->

MarkWhittington writes: NASASpaceFlight.com published the results of current NASA thinking concerning what needs to be launched and when to support a crewed mission to Phobos and two crewed missions to the Martian surface between 2033 and 2043. The result is a mind-numbingly complex operation involving dozens of launches to cis-lunar space and Mars using the heavy lift Space Launch System. The architecture includes a collection of habitation modules, Mars landers, propulsion units (both chemical rockets and solar electric propulsion) and other parts of a Mars ship.
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Submission Poll: What electronics do you want in your car 1

sleepypsycho writes: What electronics do you want in you car?
- Self driving car
- Collision avoidance
- Integrated electronics system: gps, audio,tire pressure warnings
- Completed isolate systems: gps, fuel injection
- Nothing with a computer chip
- I don't want any kind of car
- Roof mounted death ray

Comment Re:I am no vegan (Score 1) 317

I dunno, are they really a form of self-sufficiency? Where do they get the hens from in the first place? Often they're not 'local', but shipped in. The feed most people give them is also not local.. While some people will have enough 'scraps' to actually feed and nourish hens, I imagine a lot of people don't, and have to actually buy more food for them, where most of the calories and protein are lost..

For example: "By the time your layer hen has reached maturity at 5 months of age, she will have consumed approximately 20 pounds of feed." That's 20lbs of edible food gone, per hen, before you even get a single egg! How is that sustainable? 3 hens means 60lbs of grains, gone...that's a lot of food when you're talking about growing your own.

If you're really serious about self-sufficiency, then it'd be much more efficient to eat the grains you're feeding to the hen instead, dontcha think? (And again, rinse and repeat process after a year or two when you're only getting an egg or two a week, but they're still eating the same amount of food.)

Sure, some homes work, but the vast majority of back yards I'm familiar with wouldn't..or they would devour the garden crops intended for people (as happens with an acquaintance). But I think if you really examine it for 'self-sufficiency', and go beyond the hobby fad, there are a lot of strikes against them..

Comment Re:I am no vegan (Score 1) 317

One of the reason the egg industry is freaking out is Hampton Creek *does* plan to make eggs obsolete and unnecessary, and perhaps even in all the ways you describe.. As someone once posted here on /. : "where there's a will, there's a way, my friend". ;)

Comment Re:I am no vegan (Score 1) 317

Heya - for sure there are lots of backyards here, but my point on space is that there is nowhere enough to fulfill the demand for over 7 billion eggs. And this only offsets a small portion of egg consumption, the vast majority are used in commercial products....not eaten directly by consumers.

Is there a rolling cage that provides adequate shelter from the elements, etc..? And chickens standing on wire all day is pretty cruel. =(

I don't doubt that some individuals can ween themselves from commercial eggs (but this also means eating much less processed or restaurant food, unless it's vegan. ;)

Just curious what other 'need' for eggs you're thinking of? Of course, I'm biased as a vegan, but I haven't consumed any eggs or egg products for 25yrs now - what am I missing that's essential? =)

Comment Re:I am no vegan (Score 1) 317

My point is there isn't enough backyard space to do this...and ignoring that, there are a lot of issues that come up from raising your own chickens. First, you have to feed them, which takes more time and money (and since they're fairly inefficient at converting protein, and will need supplemental feed, your total cost-per-egg will go up). You also need to clean up after them (hopefully at least a few times a week.)

You will now be attracting more predators into the city. Here in Greater Vancouver, there are an estimated 2-3,000 coyotes living in the area, and fortunately co-existence has been pretty good, but I could see other communities who would not be impressed with more species moving into the city. Racoons are pretty crafty, and are quite capable of getting into many enclosures, or finding when someone's been sloppy or careless in closing the enclosure (as happened to an acquaintance). This all breeds stupidity, an people end up setting traps in their backyards in an effort to 'control' the predators, and then instead of trapping predators, pets and children get caught in snares and leghold traps instead. (This also happens with regularity here in Vancouver.)

After a year, 'productivity' of chickens drops, and within 2 years you're getting an egg or two per chicken per week. So now you have to deal with this - either keeping them (and they live upwards of 10yrs), or disposing of them (I hate to think of what that means...) And then getting MORE chickens to replace them.

Chickens also get sick, get bugs, and need more care than just 'giving them food'. A few chickens in a block are pretty quiet, but if a large number of backyards in an area had chickens, the noise would become quite significant. Oh, and the stink. Doubtless some neighbours would spend as much time cleaning up, and so the stink from their manure would spread around the block as well..

I think there's a lot more to consider here.. I imagine there's a good reason people were eager to get hens out of their backyards in the first place, and find their eggs elsewhere. (Which brings us back full circle to how they're actually unnecessary, and companies like Hampton Creek are finding innovative ways to replace these things. ;)

Comment Re:Um... so what? (Score 1) 317

Well, given it says 'vegan' in my handle (which you kindly point out) how am I even *remotely* trying to hide my bias? But besides that, most of this post is simply facts, and facts from the AEB themselves. Not sure what's got you in such a tizzy. You can view my post history as well..and I'm not exactly one-dimensional in my posts. Sure, this is a big interest of mine, and one I'd say I'm more informed than most about, but it's not my only interest.

Comment Re:I am no vegan (Score 1) 317

7.67 billion eggs are produced in the US each year. Can you even imagine how many 'hobby farms' it would take to accomplish this feat? Quite nearly every remaining square foot of the US would have to be transformed into hobby farms to accomplish this. Hampton Creek is challenging an unsustainable industry, and providing an excellent replacement, but is being pursued by the government for this innovation...that just doesn't seem right. : \

Comment Re:Um... so what? (Score -1, Troll) 317

Err...except the AEB is a government-run organization, so this is YOUR tax dollars and government 'at work', opposing one business in defense of an industry. I don't think it's really supposed to work that way. And yes, there is a 'big egg', multi-billion-dollar interests at play here, given that 7.67 billion eggs are laid in the US each year and the government has been caught meddling and interfering in questionable ways. 98% percent of eggs come from your typical 'factory farm' battery cages in order to achieve these numbers - you're in a tiny minority with your purchasing habits. (And it'd be scary to consider how many 'local' farms would be needed to provide 7.67 billion eggs each year. Think of that local farm, how many eggs do you think they produce each year? To scale it up, pretty much all the free space in the US would have to be transformed into 'small farms'.)

Hampton Creek has a point when they're trying to make a point about changing how we produce food.

Comment Re:Don't Prions come from eating Meat? (Score 1) 53

Err...what nutrients are there in milk that aren't in vegan foods? (With the exception of B12, but most of it isn't in the 'food', it's in the fecal matter of cows which contaminates the milk - and *everyone* over 50 now is recommended to take a B12 supplement, I bet that'll drop more as many meat-eaters have problems with B12 -- it's not an issue of consumption, it's usually an issue with the ability to absorb B12. Same with the traces of iodine in milk - it's residue from the cleaning products in the processing plants, not from milk itself.)

Check out a book called 'Got Milked?', it's written (calm down) by a non-vegan, and really examines how milk came about, and why it's such a huge feature in some Western areas (it's barely more than a condiment in much of the rest of the world; many immigrants look at it, wondering why a condiment has a whole 'food group' in places like Canada and the US.) Plenty of other plant-based foods are *much* better sources of the nutrients in milk (did you know calcium from plants is much easier for us to absorb?) Finally, why on earth are grown monkeys drinking the milk from cows?? It's really quite mad when you step back from what our society has taught us. Were I not vegan, I would still probably have to ask myself: 'why are we drinking this stuff'?

Comment Re:On this topic - anything like 'Word' with tabs? (Score 1) 95

Ooh - this might actually cover it, thanks! (Saw it in Windows 10 after install, but never opened it.) Would still prefer something like tabs in Google Docs (so can access more easily elsewhere), but I imagine this is cloud-based as well. Thanks again!

Backed up the system lately?