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Comment Re:I've seen nothing but Bizarro World from them (Score 1) 63

Yeah, let's just ignore that little crash in '99 and 2000

What crash would that be? Unemployment was under 5% in 1999 and kept falling until 2001 (graph). Yes, it was bad if you were in the tech sector. More of a market correction than a crash. <Cue Crocodile Dundee> Now, 2008, THAT was a crash!

So, who benefited from that "boom"? The very same people that are benefiting from this one, and it ain't us.

Indeed, which is why I'm voting Sanders.

Comment Re:I've seen nothing but Bizarro World from them (Score 1) 63

Here's an amusing thought: Trump has threatened to run as a third party candidate if the Republicans are mean to him, Bloomberg said if Trump, Sanders, or Cruz were nominated he could jump in. So it could be a four way race; Trump, Sanders, Bloomberg, and Cruz. I don't think that's ever happened before.

Comment Re:Laughing myself out of the room (Score 2) 596

Automatic transmission is in the minority. Though they are becoming more popular.

They were seen as an unnecessary expense. Both in terms of less fuel efficiency, and because of maintenance cost. And also some drivers prefer the feeling of being in control...

If you pass a test with a manual (stick shift) then you are covered for automatics too. If you pass with an automatic, you are only licensed for automatics.

Comment I've seen nothing but Bizarro World from them (Score 1) 63

Bush and Christie hitting one-time Senator Rubio out on lack of experience when Bush's Texas governor brother took the white house in peacetime with a balanced budget and in a boom and left with two wars, the worst economy since the Great Depression, and history's largest deficit. Then a one term Illinois Senator took that and is leaving office with low unemployment, a lower deficit, and a good economy. They're nuts.

Not that Rubio is any more sane.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 634

Oooo, a tone troll, how original. What's the real problem: that people are fed up with zombie lies, or that people keep repeating them now matter how many times they are debunked. Remember Republicans spending years blaming Clinton for Waco and Ruby Ridge, when the former happened five weeks into his presidency, and the latter happened before Clinton was elected, much less took office?

I can't state with any authority that this data is accurate, but it shows multiple scenarios, under which EITHER candidate may have won.

Do tell which scenario is more accurate than a state-wide recount. A state-wide recount that the press did after the election. A statewide recount which Gore won under any method chosen. Now, you were tonesplaining about something?

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 634

The recount that the Florida Supreme Court ordered was not in accordance with Florida law. Since the US Constitution specifically states that electors are chosen "as the state legislature directs", and existing US Supreme Court decisions makes that power plenary (not subject to ANY judicial review by ANY court for ANY reason) the Florida Supreme Court-ordered recounts were blatantly unconstitutional and illegal.

Nonsensical hand waving. What was the Florida supreme court following? State law, and the the state constitution.

It doesn't matter WHO was recounting the ballots - the recount was not per Florida law as passed by the Florida legislature.

Yeah. It was.

The fact that Democrats/leftists/liberals were and are willing to throw away the rule of law in order to win is downright fucking scary.

You mean what SCOTUS did, stopping a recount based on the prima-face-bullshit reasoning that different standards were being used in the recount. Because of course you're going to count op-scan ballots in a different way than punch-cards. The only standard that mattered, was determining the intent of the voter.

The standard used by the state supreme court.

Gore tried to unconstitutionally lawyer his way to the White House - and failed. Thankfully.

And as the Onion said, 'our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity' was over, dumbfuck.

Comment Re:Butterfly Ballot not Supreme Court decided 2000 (Score 1) 634

They were, twice

What did I just say about delusional winger bullshit? SCOTUS stopped Florida from completing their statewide recount, so they were not counted until the press did their own recount after the fact.

in the timeframe allocated to do so

The only "timeline" involved was the January 20th date to swear in the next president. The state had more than enough time to complete a full recount. Hell, there was even precedent, when it took weeks to certify Hawaii's votes when it was Kennedy and Nixon. Maybe if Ginny's last name was Clinton, wingers would have noticed that, if only for a couple of seconds.

The result was certified by the Florida Secretary of State

Who happened to chair Bush's campaign in the state. No corruption or conflict of interest there. Nor in Scalia refusing to recuse himself despite his son working for Bush's campaign, nor Thomas's wife who was busy collecting resumes for a Bush Administration, over at the Heritage Foundation.

past the date the electoral college meets to cast their votes

Straw man and a non-response, all in a nice little package.

Trying to remove the effect of the votes of all the Florida voters is not "counting every vote".


State law defined the process that Gore was trying to get overridden by SCOTUS.

Is our children learning? I already said it was the the state of Florida performing the recount, not Gore's campaign. That is what was stopped by SCOTUS.

Yes, facts remain even when wingnuts try to make stupid stuff up.

So you're finally going to stop repeating made up wingnut stuff? What was stopping you before? At the end of the day, this isn't hard: do facts matter to you, or now? It's a fact that Gore got more votes in Florida than Bush. It's a fact that was the case even after Republicans counted illegally cast military ballots while kicking thousands of poor eligible voters off the rolls. It's a fact that if either justice with a conflict of interest had recused himself, the state supreme court would have been left in charge of the process, following state laws and the state's constitution.

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