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Comment: Re:Hey, there's a shock ... (Score 1) 332

by Trogre (#49542165) Attached to: Drone Killed Hostages From U.S. and Italy, Drawing Obama Apology

If America keeps bombing Pakistan ... is it OK for Pakistan to bomb America? Because the level of "because we're special" which happens here is mind boggling.

Maybe it will be, when militant groups trying to force their religion on the world start kidnapping Pakistanis and holding them in America.

Comment: Re:Seems to be OK all around then (Score 1) 605

by Trogre (#49541925) Attached to: Bill To Require Vaccination of Children Advances In California

You're an idiot.

Re-read my first post that you responded to. Is there anything there to suggest that I or anyone I am responsible for has not been vaccinated?

Again, this post is not for you, since you are clearly unwell and incapable of reason, but anyone else following this thread.

Comment: Re:Seems to be OK all around then (Score 1) 605

by Trogre (#49535209) Attached to: Bill To Require Vaccination of Children Advances In California

This is not about vaccines, it's about making them mandatory.

Look I'm sure you're comfortable with having such naive trust in anything that has the word "vaccine" attached to it. I choose to be a bit more cautious. Before something is injected into your bloodstream you'd better be damn well sure that it is safe. Because a lot can go wrong with human chemistry. A lot.

You said it yourself in another post:

the greatest authoritarian government, run by the most fascist, megalomaniacal, sadistic person who has ever lived, would find no better tool of absolute control than mandatory hard drug use like meth, cocaine, or especially heroin

Can you not see how such a megalomaniac would use a mandatory vaccination programme to their advantage?

Of course current vaccines are perfectly safe, as they have undergone rigorous testing and refining. Why did they undergo such a process? Because of people who don't think like you do. My point was that at some point malice or error could very easily cause something undesirable to enter your bloodstream.

Blind trust is seldom a good thing. I'm sorry that you don't seem to grasp that, and from your post it doesn't look as if you will be receptive to anything I say here - I just leave this here for the benefit of anyone else following this thread.

tl;dr: Trust, but verify

Comment: Re:Seems to be OK all around then (Score 3, Insightful) 605

by Trogre (#49533595) Attached to: Bill To Require Vaccination of Children Advances In California

Disclaimer: I am pro-vax.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that current MMR, DTaP, etc, vaccines are harmless except to those with specific medical conditions, and are effective against the diseases they target.

Current vaccines.

I think, however, that giving the government power to mandate vaccincations in this manner could lead to serious problems in future.

While today's vaccines are fine, there is the possibility that one day a vaccination will be produced that will not be desirable by the people. The NSA for example has proven itself to be insidious and virtually untouchable. At some point in the future they could introduce tracking nano-devices or a behaviour modifying cocktail to some otherwise innocuous vaccine, and the populace would have no legal standing to object. Another possibility is a product being introduced that may not have gone through sufficient testing due to some failure in due process. While the government launches inquiries and debates matters, people who refuse it are subsequently refused healthcare and die.

Vaccines for other conditions exist that have raised legitimate safety concerns: look up the current HPV vaccine for example.

Comment: Re:F.Lux helps with that on monitors! (Score 1) 51

by Trogre (#49516357) Attached to: Colors Help Set Body's Internal Clock

I second this. Personally I use Redshift to accomplish the same thing on my PCs, and the simpler Nightfilter on Android (although the latter doesn't automatically adjust based on your latitude and time of day).

The difference between "night" and day mode is, well, night and day. When I turn if off late at night my eyeballs scream and then heave a sigh of relief when I re-engage it.

You cannot have a science without measurement. -- R. W. Hamming

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