Because I search sites that aren't blatantly biased pro-radical-feminist garbage?
I noticed you dismissed the site as "garbage" without actually addressing my point. Do youbelieve those IRC logs are a fabrication? If so, say so. If not, then being pro gamergate means you are pro that stuff.
I have a feeling that no evidence for my side of the argument is ever going to be good enough for you,
Touche. I like how you dismiss my evidence while claiming I *will* dismiss yours and then passing the buck on addressing it. Your sophistry has been noted.
Anyway, most (all?) of the evidence I've seen has been to show that some anti-gaters have done some shitty things. You know what? That doesn't make me pro gamergate because two wrongs don't make a right.
MRAs =/= MGTOW =/= Return of Kings.
Well, last time I addressed that point, you ignored my reply. I'll do it again because what the hell why not. No they're not all strictly identical, and sure they will all trade insults for not doing it "properly". From the point of view of someone at a distance, they all peddle the same brand of regressive drivel of which an amazingly large amount seems to be spent grousing about women. The fact that they've given themselves different names and have one or two points that differ by epsilon isn't a good reason not to put them under the same broad banner of "manosphere".
They are separate paradigms.
Barely. I've gone to the original sources, you know, the websites or subreddits where they're based and no, they're barely any different at all. Saying they're different reminds me of this:
I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?" He said, "Baptist!" I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?" He said, "Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?" He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off. -- Emo Phillips
From the point of view of someone not in the manosphere, the difference between MGTOW and Red Pillers and ROTK etc is the difference between the reformed baptist church of god reformed 1879 and 1915. So sure they're technically different but not in any meaningful way no matter how much fuss they make about it.
In fact, RoK detests MRAs, but, if you'd even bothered to look past pro-feminist literature on the matter, you might know that.
You are under the impression I didn't know that. I do know that but I just don't care. Infact it's th opposite. The closer some split is to being the same I think the more likely they are to revile each other. The reformers of 1879 detest the reformers of 1915 but to everyone else they look more or less identical.
And to anyone not deeply embedded in the manosphere, they all share mostly the same regressive, blinkered views and no one except for them cares about the tiny, minor but very heartfelt differences.