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Comment: Re:What about C++? (Score 5, Informative) 583

by The Warlock (#34209842) Attached to: The Coming War Over the Future of Java

C++ has an astonishingly complicated grammar, which means that compilation takes forever and other tools don't work as well as they do for languages with simpler grammars, like C or Java.

C++ doesn't really have compile-time encapsulation: if you add a private member to a class, you need to recompile everything that uses that class even though the class's public interface didn't change. That woudn't be so bad in and of itself except that C++, again, takes forever to compile.

C++ also doesn't have run-time encapsulation or really any serious run-time error checking that you don't do yourself. Yes, it's for performance reasons, but some people are working on problems that aren't performance-critical and would prefer a language that doesn't pound nails through our dicks. (if it doesn't have encapsulation, why do they call it "object oriented?")

C++'s exception support is hilariously broken. 1) If you've allocated some memory for an object, and then you throw an exception, you don't have that pointer anymore, and because C++ doesn't have garbage collection you've just leaked memory. The only way around this is to implement garbage collection yourself; C++ weenies call this "RAII" and if they're really far down the rabbit hole they sometimes don't even realize that it's just them implementing shitty reference-counting garbage collection. 2) You can't throw exceptions in destructors. Well, you can, but when an exception is raised, all the destructor for objects on the stack are called, and if one of them throws an exception while you're already handling an exception the program terminates. Seriously, that's what the standard says, I'm not making this up. So you can't throw exceptions in destructors, or call any function that might throw an exception. 3) In every major compiler I've used, exception handling support is implemented in such a way that it slows down every function call you make. Yes, it's only slightly, but it means if you really care about performance, you can't use exceptions, and if you don't care about performance why the hell are you using C++? And even if you want to use them they're almost worthless; I mean you can't even get a goddamn stack trace out of them. You can throw arbitrary objects, but the catcher can't figure out what the hell the object is because of C++'s lack of reflection. Etc.

C++, in an effort to be sort-of compatible with C (except where it's not compatible with C, which makes you wonder why they bothered in the first place) keeps all of C's features while creating duplicate features with their own new, horrifying problems. So you have C++ templates, but you still need to deal with C macros. You have std::vectors, but you still need to deal with arrays. You have std::string and char*, and neither is particularly good. Making things even funnier, C++ doesn't like to use its new features and prefers the C stuff: a string literal is a char*, not a std::string, the arguments to main() are int argc, char** argv, rather than something sensible like std::vector args, iostream does not take std::string for its filename arguments, etc.

While we're on the subject, the standard iostream is pants-on-head retarded. The streams are stateful, which means that std::cout foo; depends not only on the values of cout, foo, and the overloaded left bit shift operator, but also on whatever's been sent to cout in the past. You send values like std::hex or std::setw(int) to set parameters, so when you grab a stream you don't really know what the fuck will happen. This is supposed to be an improvement over printf? They're verbose as hell, too: say you're printing some hex numbers. In C, you'd use "printf("0x%08xn", x);" for int x. In C++, you use "std::cout std::hex std::setfill('0') std::setw(8) x std::dec std::endl;" It's absurd.

The standard library is completely anemic. I'm not even talking about GUI stuff, here: there's no platform-independent way to do some really basic stuff like pausing for a length of time, or starting a new thread. You can use some "platform independent library wrapper" like ACE, but which of the many, many mutually incompatible wrappers are you going to use? Is that wrapper still going to be maintained when you're working on your program a few years down the line? Do you need to ship this wrapper's runtime to your customers? Why the hell doesn't the language spec specify some of this shit? The STL (and any other template-heavy code, particularly code that does a lot of operator overloading, too) also just loves to dump gigantic unintelligible multi-kilobyte error messages at the slightest provocation.

I could go on, really. If you've only used C++ in class or in personal projects then it seems like a neat language; it's not until you need to use it for a large codebase with lots of other people, some of whom have already moved on to other companies, that you realize what an unholy mess the language is.

Comment: Re:The climate skeptics will have a field day (Score 3, Insightful) 233

by The Warlock (#33613212) Attached to: Peer Review Highly Sensitive To Poor Refereeing

Oh please. Let's face it, it's easy for the government to ignore environmental concerns; they've been doing that for years. The real barrier is the general public that's okay with nuclear power as long as the power plant isn't near their neighborhood, as long as trains carrying fuel or waste don't go anywhere near their house. They'd love them some cheap electricity, sure, but just build it near some other people.

Comment: Re:Amazing how uninformed the author is (Score 2, Insightful) 322

by The Warlock (#33133476) Attached to: No, Net Neutrality Doesn't Violate the 5th Amendment

You know what, you're right; the government should provide internet access, as in this century it's as much basic infrastructure as postal roads were in the Founders' time, and having private companies run the show will only fuck everything up.

Or do you think that the Founders didn't want the federal government to help provide infrastructure for communication? The Constitution doesn't seem to agree.

Comment: Re:Next Week on a Very Special "D-Bag Lawyer" (Score 1) 322

by The Warlock (#33133370) Attached to: No, Net Neutrality Doesn't Violate the 5th Amendment

Then again, I prefer to call it the war of northern aggression and feel that the states had the right to secede. Oh well....

Ah yes, that "northern agression" where the government was going to force the South to "relinquish control of their PROPERTY", that "PROPERTY" being other human beings.

If the South had been allowed to secede, there would still be legal human slavery on this continent today. Why are you so concerned with the rights of "states" and not the rights of human beings?

Idle

+ - Raleigh Councilman to Google: Name My Kids-> 1

Submitted by Anonymous Meoward
Anonymous Meoward (665631) writes "In what may be the weirdest perk proposed by a municipal authority to entice business, city councilman Bonner Gaylord has offered to name his unborn children Sergey and Larry, after the founders of Google, if the search giant it will build its proposed high-speed fiberoptic network in Raleigh. (And if the kids are boys.)"
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Astronauts Begin Final Spacewalk To Repair Hubble 94

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An anonymous reader writes "Astronauts John Grunsfield and Andrew Feustel began the fifth and final spacewalk of their Hubble Space Telescope repair mission this morning at 8:20AM. During their spacewalk the two will install the second battery group replacement in an equipment bay above the Wide Field Camera 2 and next to the compartment where the first battery set was installed on the second spacewalk. Each of the battery module weighs 460 pounds and contains three batteries. The batteries provide electrical power to support Hubble's operations during the night when there's no sun to power the solar arrays."

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