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Comment: Re:What's it good for? (Score 1) 227

by TangoMargarine (#48453601) Attached to: Russia May Be Planning National Space Station To Replace ISS

We can't believe you think this is a serious issue. It's mind-boggling. There are 7 billion people right here right now and 200,000 more every day.

Yeah. Let me get all mathy on you for a second here...

A) There are 7 billion people we could help now and ignore the long-term. Alleviating human suffering should be our goal, right?
B) If there is no ELE there's more or less an infinite number of humans in the future (less because the universe will presumably end).
C) If there IS an ELE and we prevent/avoid it, see B.
D) If there is an ELE and we DON'T do anything about it, and we're all still on Earth, the number of humans comes to a dead halt.

It's all about debating the values of A and D.

Because doomsday nutters like you rarely actually believe your own crap

A) Thanks for the insult that doesn't add anything to the conversation.
B) You're the one who's labeling me a "doomsday nutter" to begin with so there's no reason for me to defend the position. I'm not; I'm just talking probability space.

You say "there's absolutely no point in spending money on space." I say, "We don't know enough about the universe yet to make a definitive statement on the matter." (For my next trick, I'll debate religion vs. agnosticism vs. atheism!)

In the entire history of mankind only 18 people have gone further than Low Earth orbit. For three days.

Kind of fits into my point, funnily enough. What we need the money for is to get further. Is "cutting our losses" at this point winning? I can see the argument for that.

And again, another programmer with completely batshit beliefs about space unmasked!

Well, you got one thing right, at least--I am a programmer. Hey, I'm arguing probabilities, so big surprise, right?

Oh wow, do you fellate yourself too when you "figure this out"? Oh you're SO smart!!

Aaaand more ad hominem insults. Good day, sir.

P.S: After skimming the first bit of that extremely long article, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with it. The guy actually comes down as a supporter of the space program. Or are you taking the "it's hard therefore we should give up" line? s/hard/expensive/g

Comment: Re:Sounds reasonable (Score 1) 240

by TangoMargarine (#48453509) Attached to: Swedish Court Refuses To Revoke Julian Assange's Arrest Warrant

If you are going to bum around Europe raping women, it is best not to piss off the world's most powerful governments

I would state that in an if-and-only-if form. It's also a bad idea to piss off the world's most powerful governments and then go bum around Europe raping women.

And, y'know, raping people in and of itself is bad.

Comment: Re:I think (Score 1) 321

Thanks for the infodump.

Then there's also the question of, how many wars have there been lately where both sides were clearly identifying themselves? Those fighting have gotten the hint that it's a dumb idea to engage bigger powers in anything other than asymmetric/guerrilla/whatever warfare.

Comment: Re:Subterranean BS. (Score 1) 72

Yeah, we're capitalists here--where we take your money away and then eloquently explain how you didn't deserve it in the first place because you're poor.

So much better than just taking your money just because (fascism) or taking your money while telling you it's for the greater good (communism). At least with the last, there's a philosophical argument involved rather than just "I want yours."

Comment: Re:What's it good for? (Score 1) 227

by TangoMargarine (#48434135) Attached to: Russia May Be Planning National Space Station To Replace ISS

Apart from the 'cool' factor, there's no actual benefit from having people in a space base, or to send humans to the rest of the solar system

First step to getting somebody on another planet so a single Extinction-Level Event doesn't come along and wipe out humanity.

I can't believe I'm practically the only one who can figure this out whenever this topic keeps popping up.

It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm. -- Dion, noted computer scientist