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Comment: Re:We the taxayer get screwed. (Score 1) 349

by sumdumass (#49819331) Attached to: How Elon Musk's Growing Empire is Fueled By Government Subsidies

It doesn't matter what the subsidies consist of. I already know anyways which is obvious from my initial post in this thread.

There is no logical fallacy either. If company would not exist without subsidies, employees of that company would not exist either. You seem to think that somehow they would.

Oh and nice try pretending you somehow became confused and thought comments about subsidies and employees of a company meant all employees everywhere or something. My first thought after reading that was if you were really that stupid. Then i remembered that this is slashdot so its entirety possible you are but it is more likely you are a pedantic troll. Give it a rest. Any idiot knows what was said and the context it was said in. Your argument fails any reasonable examination.

Comment: Re:We the taxayer get screwed. (Score 1) 349

by sumdumass (#49813161) Attached to: How Elon Musk's Growing Empire is Fueled By Government Subsidies

I reconciled it just fine. I'm not sure how many more ways it can be said; if the job would not exist without the subsidies, they are all going to the employees. You have failed to counter that and just mentioned that the employees could be employed somewhere else.

You are correct though. There is nothing more to intelligently discuss as it's already been said. Your deviations serve nothing but trying to hide reality.

Comment: Re:We the taxayer get screwed. (Score 1) 349

Lol.. what you miss could fill a novel.

First, no one said the company was the sum of employee cost. If the company doesn't turn a profit, there will be no employee cost because it will not be in business. If the subsidies are the reason the company is making a profit and still open, then it is entirely reasonable to connect the subsidies to their pay.

Second the only thing not logical is your thinking. Sure they could get a job somewhere else. But that ignores the fact that they wouldn't be working for that company. It also ignores the fact that unemployment is not zero. Their reemployment elsewhere would either displace another worker if all things otherwise was the same or some other company would expand due to that company no longer being in business. That means they are not employed or the subsidies are depressing other businesses.

The rest of your post misses the fact that if all other costs caused them to not be profitable enough to stay in business without the subsidies, the jobs would only exist because of the subsidies. Again it is completely reasonable to connect them.

It is not a complicated process at all. If the company can not make money without the subsidies, it no longer exists. Those jobs no longer exist if they were even created in the first place. You can try to hide or ignore that all you want but it doesn't change anything.

Comment: Re:We the taxayer get screwed. (Score 4, Insightful) 349

And that comes to what, over $360,000 per employee?

Here is the problem. Most of this subsidy money is not given to anyone or any companies. It is a waiver of future costs that wouldn't likely be collected anyways. Some is in the format of direct payment but those are generally to share the costs of getting people and companies to do what they wouldn't do already. So its pointless to really argue about it outside of whether we want someone or companies to act in certain ways while remaining free people.

Comment: Re:Oh, that Orange County (Score 2) 165

Yes, you certainly have not tried to make make it secrete and it would have been considerably harder if you tried but not impossible because you are somewhat successful in life. Well, what i would consider successful anyways.

I was just wanting to make a point. I live about 3000 miles from you (no, not in florida either..lol.) and have no desire to go to jail over someone i don't even know so don't take anything i've done as a threat or anything. Government already collects substantial amounts of information and this data mining isn't limited to backwards idiots far away from us. It's right in our backyards sometimes without us even realizing it. Kids most of all probably do not understand just how much information they are giving away. Even well educated and successful adults don't realize it sometimes. Its even worse when you understand espionage tactics and information/inteligence gathering. The US army had a bunch of training films during WWII about how this is done. I foget the nae of the series, but it was three or four films long about interrogating prisoners who didn't say anything obvious but gave all sorts of information away. At the end, it listed all the information gathered and it was obvious how it was gathered in hindsight but completely obfuscated it practice. This is what happens with online presence being so persistent and accessible. Schools or government datamining social media should be scary even if we don't think we are doing anything wrong/illegal.

Comment: Re:Oh, that Orange County (Score 1) 165

I'm not going to out you any further than the county you live in. I could, you have plastered it all over the web. But I don't see the point in it. There are not 20 glendales in ventura county. I can tell that you live in a condo with 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms near near Heritage Park. 805 should mean something to you as should 484.

I think your missing the point though. It wasn't that I could find you, it's that people do not realize how much they are giving away to strangers and a school district near you is just as brazen about collecting this information or spying as orange county florida is. In other words, there are idiots all around us and if we are not careful, we might find ourselves sucked in with them.

If you want, I can post everything I know about you and tell you where I found it. You would likely think it is obvious afterwards. I just don't think it's wise to do so.

Comment: Re:Oh, that Orange County (Score 1) 165

by sumdumass (#49807513) Attached to: Orange County Public Schools To Monitor Students On Social Media

You shouldn't be that glad. Glendale school district did this same thing and that is near where you live. It actually should be more near to ventura county since glendale is in los angeles county than orange county would be.

http://snaptrends.com/schools-...

Oh, and no, we do not know each other, I just spent about 5 minutes scraping some information from the web to determine your approx location. Well, in case you were wondering that is.

Comment: Re:The problem is... (Score 1) 233

by sumdumass (#49778759) Attached to: Elon Musk Establishes a Grade School

The past is the future. Seriously, doesn't this somewhat remind us of the one room school house?

I know things are different but I think the younger kids will have an easier go with beimg somewhat exposed to more complicated concepts and likely see how or why completely alien in appearance processes come together.

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