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Comment Re:Mountains and Mole Hills... (Score 1) 136

Immersion up to 1 m
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). Test duration: 30 minutes
Tested with the lowest point of the enclosure 1000 mm below the surface of the water, or the highest point 150 mm below the surface, whichever is deeper.

Comment Re:Mountains and Mole Hills... (Score 4, Informative) 136

IP68 is...
6 Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
8 Immersion beyond 1 m The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

No mention of salt so fuck snorkling. If it is not made out of a sealed portless glass block. marine grade stainless or brass it is not going in the ocean. But i've dropped more than one phone out of a chest pocket into a stream pong or river. It if makes it through that it is better than the alternative.

Comment Re:Mountains and Mole Hills... (Score 3, Insightful) 136

Do you know what false advertising is in fact? "A reasonable person must believe it." Catch 22; no reasonable person would believe any advertising so it is hard to get a conviction. Here it might be more cut and dry because they claim an IP68 standard which does mean something. Either way I'd rather have a phone that tries to IP68 than one that doesn't. I've had a S3 Active and I took a lot of underwater video with it but I seated my cover correctly every time. The new Sony have a open USB port that is IP68 or was obviously until a rational engineer told the marketing folks that that they cannot claim X. I honestly have NO IDEA why we need any ports on any phone at all. Sure I love me some 2 batteries but with Qi, NFC, Wifi, Cloud Sync, Chromecast et al. I would be happy having all those things like USB, SIM, SD, and whatever under screw down o-ring bezels.

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