All of the management pages for:
- EMC Storage
- Brocade FC switches
- Dell and HP managed ethernet switches
- Dell and HP DRAC/iLO remote management components
- Dell and Avocent IP KVMs
And I'm sure there are more. The best part is, none of the above works correctly with anything newer than Java 6! I have a VM running Windows 7, a working version of Firefox ESR, and Java 6. And I still have to constantly tell the VM that I don't want to update anything, and to just enable the darn plugins.
All of the management pages for:
In the case that infinite times is prohibited by law, they'll settle for infinity minus one, though.
Since they essentially require me to keep a machine around running Java 6 and an old browser so I can still access them, then yes? But then, so does Unisphere and the embedded broadcom Fiber switch software. Java 6 can never die - it's the only way to configure systems and network hardware.
I'd actually categorize the OP's comment as an attempt to attribute to incompetence rather than malice - what the Sales and Marketing folks do is, frequently if not typically, all about convincing people to spend resources they don't have on something they don't need. Sometimes it works out well for the consumer, many times it works out poorly. If we take the stance that Sales and Marketing are, in fact, smart enough, then they must just be Evil (e.g. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...é_boycott).
I tend to agree with your assessment - the Sales and Marketing (which are two entirely different things) folks tend to be very clever. What they are not, however, is benevolent. Their god is Money, and if you don't worship as fervently as they do, then you're just another sacrifice to the cause.
While I agree with you on the ills of "a run-away regulatory bureaucracy," businesses that look out for "their own self-interest" will always choose to cut corners if it allows them to make an extra buck, unless the costs for doing so are imposed on them.
The real catch is that for the free market checks you mention to work, all parties need to have all of the information (i.e., potential consumers have to know that the product might contain a toxic substance, and what the side effects of using the product would be because of it). Since corporations (sans regulation) will do everything they can to suppress that information, someone needs to impose a cost on those corporations for acting this way.
Without environmental regulation, corporations will dump their waste wherever and whenever they can, even if it causes earthquakes or birth defects, because it's cheaper than cleaning up their messes and disposing of things safely. The market rewards that behaviour - a company behaving badly will have lower costs than its competitors, and will drive them out of business unless they start behaving badly, too.
Sure, corrupt regulators make the process much worse than merely corrupt corporations, but that just means we need to clean up the corrupt bureaucracy, as well as the corrupt corporations. Corruption has to cost, or the market will not correct it.
Agreed - there is an appropriate amount of regulation. That amount is neither zero, nor infinite regulation. But anyone that thinks that businesses would just do the right thing if only they were free to do whatever they want hasn't read their history.
Here, here. I would like to voice my support of your call to understand things! I wonder why people are comfortable with the idea that rocket science is more complicated than the basic physics they had in high school, and maybe there are people who have studied it more and have better ideas, but economics is somehow no more complicated than balancing their checkbooks and paying their bills, so clearly they know better than those pesky educated people?
Oh, wait, this is the internet. Everyone thinks they're better at rocket science than actual rocket scientists.
The issue with the claim that free markets self-regulate is that while it's possible that they do, the "Free Market" that people hold up as the ideal model for economics is just like the frictionless, gas-less space in which students solve first semester physics problems (so they can get the hang of the difference between velocity and acceleration, before adding in the terms for rolling friction and air resistance).
I think your comment about "excessive intervention by uninformed central planners" shows that you already recognize that information (a necessary condition for a Free Market is perfect information, for all parties) is a big problem in market regulation. This is the case whether its consumers/producers that lack information, or regulators. However, the assertion that taking away the regulation will have better results than fixing the regulation is based on a fiction (i.e., the simplified Free Market model, which can't exist on earth any more than a pitcher can throw a ball with no friction on a field with uniform gravitation).
Capitalism, in a market with perfect information (which is, incidentally, a pre-condition of a "Free" market) may not prohibit benevolence, but American Capitalism, as controlled by Boards and Shareholders, frowns on any act that does not increase profits. If you (as a CEO) do act in such a manner as to decrease profits, or fail to increase profits when you could have, Carl Icahn will sue you. So while benevolence isn't prohibited, it's certainly heavily discouraged, especially for publicly traded companies.
Your previous comment (and this one) misses the point, which is that while you are correct that money can be made manufacturing drugs that are already certified, the patent (time limited! Just like copyright was supposed to be!) allows the company a window of time in which to make back the investment in completing clinical trials.
Once that investment is "paid off," it can be profitable to just sell an inexpensive version of it. If the substance can never be patented, then it would be much more difficult (and/or take much longer) to make enough to pay back the costs of clinical trials, making it a much less appealing investment.
There was a penalty when Sony pulled OtherOS: their DRM was cracked in less than two days, and the PlayStation is just as susceptible to bots and hacks as every other game system (as it should be).
Becoming a Sprint store will allow them to keep about 50% of the inventory in the store! But seriously, most of the RadioShacks near me have been mobile phone resellers with a few other things in the back (about which the staff knows nothing) for years.
I would argue that there is something preventing concerned citizens from performing their own testing and publishing, which is that if you were to publish any test results about a product that weren't glowing, that company would immediately threaten you with a crushing lawsuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect).
Would they win? Shouldn't the truth be absolute defense against claims of slander or libel? I think it should, but if someone with a massive legal department threatens to ruin your life over it, most private citizens don't have the resources to contest the issue, so they settle. Settlement term #1? Keep your findings to yourself. This is why we need government to step in - an organization beholden (at least in theory) to the people, with the clout to call the bluffs that corporations (or merely well-funded individuals) make in order to keep the less-well-funded from derailing their plans.
I agree that this is the intended result (government tests products on behalf of consumers, finds wrongdoing, pushes companies to fix the problem).
In this case, it was indirect regulation. The "supplement" industry isn't regulated. People can sell whatever they want, say "this might help with your deepest, darkest fears!" and if people will buy it, make money. However, because they're sold in stores in NY, they're subject to the same regulations as everything else that's sold in stores in NY, which are governed by Consumer Protection and Fair Labeling laws.
The NY state government examined these products under Consumer Protection regulations, found that the labels were wrong, and had them pulled because lying on product labels is illegal, not because there were any rules about supplements. A quibble, I know, but there was and is nothing in place to require testing of supplements like this - it was just something someone in the Attorney General's office decided to check.
Charging for things I don't want? I'd pay extra to shut off any extra noises my car might make. Then again, I'd pay a lot extra to disable all the extra noises that everyone else's cars make. An engineering project: Can I get the equivalent of a TV-B-Gone, so I can turn off the obnoxious extra noises that the cars around me make?