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Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47440673) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One
No, that is not the only way to protect the innocents. You make it sound like once someone starts driving, there is no way to protect innocents. I don't know if you're incredibly unimaginative or a deliberate asshole. Many departments don't give chase for certain offenses. For instance, private property theft of already-insured property is not worth violence over. (Oh sure, for the *owner* it is, not for the rest of us.) Most stolen cars are not recovered via a dramatic and dangerous chase. You can surveil a vehicle and wait until the driver gets out on foot. The gas tank wont last forever.

Casual googling seems to imply that about 1/3rd of deaths in police pursuits are people not in the fleeing vehicle. If this is to recover already insured, stolen vehicles, these people died to help an insurance company CEO stay rich. And oh, I guess the cars got back to the original owner, bashed up. Protecting private property shouldn't involve the deaths of anyone other than the criminal. Especially if it's already insured.

Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47440333) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One
No, my argument is not that. At the point where your first sentence is you shoving words in my mouth via a false dichotomy you just made up, should I even bother to type this conversation? Nevermind the fact that he *was* being pursued. They stopped. That doesn't mean it did not start. He would not have been driving like that if they had not started an unnecessary (in this day & age of technology & tracking) chase. That was the original comment that started this entire thread -- someone questioning the wisdom that this is how we handle the situation. At some point, this morphed into you telling me that I'm asking for police to shoot people for not yielding. Go fuck yourself.

Comment: Re:Hi speed chase, hum? (Score 1) 443

by ClintJCL (#47439349) Attached to: The First Person Ever To Die In a Tesla Is a Guy Who Stole One

"Wouldn't it be much better to deploy a helicopter, drone or other means of tracking the car from a distance, and not risk killing several bystanders in a crash?"

*other guy responds, more or less stating non-death penalty crimes should be death-penalty crimes because people like their cars, despite the risk of innocent bystanders being killed which that was the initial and main point of Koyaanisqatsi's post, and the first thing he talked about*

Are you up to speed yet? I can't help it if there are multiple people in the thread whose heads the point whooshed over. I've always reviled my fellow americans for being so incredibly over-punitive as to actually blind themseles to the unintended consequences; and it's been a problem in American history, especially the last 2 generations. But I didn't know that it worked online, too. So blinded by the punitive aspect as to miss Koyaanisqatsi's central point.

Comment: Re:Did you still get the links outside Europe (Score 1) 74

by Scarletdown (#47386365) Attached to: Google Reinstating Some 'Forgotten' Links

Which one of your rights is assaulted when Google, a private enterprise, decides to not show you certain links?

Is Google one of the country's owners? Do they pull the strings of any of our lawmakers in D.C., lawmakers that were hired (aka voted in) by the citizens of this country? If they are controlling lawmakers, like other highly influential corporations do, then they should be considered to be acting on behalf of the government and the people that the government is supposed to serve. And thus, they should be required to observe and submit to the same safeguards and restrictions outlined in the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution to which anyone else working under the banner of government is subject.

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