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Comment: Re:Performance improvements have helped it survive (Score 2) 511

by Sauce Tin (#47742831) Attached to: If Java Wasn't Cool 10 Years Ago, What About Now?
"But the VM technology in Java has gotten so sophisticated it isn't significantly behind languages like C/C++ in terms of performance, and that can't be ignored." I highly disagree. First, For every level of abstract sophistication you add, you may increase the 'agility' of the language, however you are still farther away from raw machine code. Java is notorious for stacking crap on top of crap on top of crap. Second, Java is far behind in performance. Any true huge performance gains are usually done with the aid of a third-party library, coded in C/C++. Java still can't do integer math anywhere near the speed of C. Java WILL NEVER be as fast as C/C++, because C/C++ isn't run as interpreted bytecode. It compiles straight to machine code. In these terms, this is more a physics problem, not (just) a code problem.

Comment: Why Java? PASCAL is THE learning language (Score 2) 511

by Sauce Tin (#47742803) Attached to: If Java Wasn't Cool 10 Years Ago, What About Now?
I really wish the academic world would go back to the actual proper learning languages, such as PASCAL. In my university, the introductory course for programming is C++ (as a freshman.) C++ has little 'English logic.' However, if you know English, you should be able to read PASCAL code much better than C/Java code. PASCAL is closer to pseudocode, which is (usually) the first assignment in these classes. Why would you jump from pseudocode to a 'stricter language' like Java? What does /. think?

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