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Philip K Dickhead's Journal: Baby, Give Me One More Surge 25

Journal by Philip K Dickhead

"Just one more surge!" -- The Indus

"Just one more surge!" -- The Kushans

"Just one more surge!" -- The Scythians

"Just one more surge!" -- The Parthians

"Just one more surge!" -- The Saffaridss

"Just one more surge!" -- The Ghaznavids

"Just one more surge!" -- The Ghorids

"Just one more surge!" -- The Timurids

"Just one more surge!" -- The Hotaki

"Just one more surge!" -- The Durrani

"Just one more surge!" -- The Sassanids

"Just one more surge!" -- The Hephthalites

"Just one more surge!" -- The Huns

"Just one more surge!" -- The Mughals

"Just one more surge!" -- The Arabs

"Just one more surge!" -- The Turkmans

"Just one more surge!" -- The Hazara

"Just one more surge!" -- The Khwarezmids

"Just one more surge!" -- The Mongols

"Just one more surge!" -- The British

"Just one more surge!" -- The British (again)

"Just one more surge!" -- The British (Yet again)

"Just one more surge!" -- The USSR

"Just one more surge!" -- The United States

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Baby, Give Me One More Surge

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  • There can be only one: [foreignpolicy.com]

    Americans have come to believe that spending government revenues on U.S. citizens here at home is usually a bad thing and should be viewed wth suspicion, but spending billions on vast social engineering projects overseas is the hallmark of patriotism and should never be questioned. This position makes no sense, but it is hard to think of a prominent U.S. leader who is making an explicit case for doing somewhat less abroad so that we can afford to build a better future here at home. D

    • I think that's an attitude that is pretty much limited to inside the Beltway and maybe the CIA.

      • Al Qaeda is Emmanuel Goldstein.

        There is no problem of "International Terrorism". Without "intelligence agencies" of various state actors, even the false appearance of this would vanish. There have always been local struggles of resistance. Always, there will be.

        I think it behooves anyone who wishes to understand what really goes in, to study deeply, the history of "Operation Gladio" and the Italian "Red Brigades" - including the murder of Aldo Morro.

        Now. Apply this to the world of "post-communist" global

        • Thanks for that link.

        • Al Qaeda is Emmanuel Goldstein.

          If you read the Muwahiddun commentaries on the Koran, then Al Qaeda is much less than Emanuel Goldstien- and much more the mythical version of Martin Luther has become for Catholics (as opposed to the real version, which was much tamer- but ended in pretty much the same result due to a pair of theological missteps).

          There is a real reformation going on in Islam- one that is only tangential to "post communist" global politics and we're not even the primary enemy by any

  • Got a link for the dates those bodies piled up in Afghanistan?

    I wonder what the genetics of Afghans is, compared to the various invaders?

    • Got a link for the dates those bodies piled up in Afghanistan?

      I think the length of the list is a testament to the irrelevancy of that data.

      I wonder what the genetics of Afghans is, compared to the various invaders?

      Wikipedia is your friend. [wikipedia.org]
    • As a long time girl watcher, I remember becoming just near stunned and hyp-mo-tized by these eyes [nationalgeographic.com] the first time I saw them. Truly an admirable mix of genes there. You can see in the follow up story though how living there just beats on people, just never ending war and stress.

      • Yes, those eyes.

        But lordie, what a 5hit-hole of a country to have to survive. No resources except poppy fields and a distribution network for contraband.

        So, can you provide a link to the history of invasion?

        I do believe the right course is to pacify Al Qiada, and that likely involves mostly Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Muslims.

        Notice I say, pacify, not obliterate.

        • by zogger (617870)

          Which invasion? As PKD pointed out, non stop war there since.forever. From my perspective, the US invasion started when they supported the mujahadeen against the Sovs.

          As to pacify, I don't think it can be done except for an approach like saddam used in iraq, and to gradually secularize them..

        • Afghanistan was not a "shit hole" prior to 1979. It was a 3rd world country, to be sure. Western Afghanistan was, in particular, a part of Khorasan - which before the Mongol devastation was the center of arts, culture, learning, science, mathematics, logic, literature and astronomy in the world. This is not an exaggeration of importance. Greek and Egyptian precursors to this enlightenment were just the rudiments of the achievements in Khorasan by Avicenna, Averroes, Khayyam and others.

          Something of this

          • Well, I did not say it was a 5hit hole before 1979. The problem is NOW, not then.

            I value your citation, and I am inclined to read that.

            Thanks, Dickhead.

            I am aware that Europeans and their spawn are greatly indebted to civilizations they typically destroyed (such as those in the Middle East, Asia, North America) with that European fascination with chemical (gunpowder, RDX, etc.) and nuclear (A-bomb, H-Bomb, "neutron" bomb", "dirty" bomb, etc.) force applied against humans.

            But that still leaves me wanting a

        • I do believe the right course is to pacify Al Qiada, and that likely involves mostly Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Muslims.

          Notice I say, pacify, not obliterate.

          Do you have a theologically appropriate idea how that is in complete keeping with the mythology of the mujahidin-inspired Individual Jihad? And given the fact that Individual Jihad opens the Koran up to the same chaotic verse-taken-out-of-context interpretation as Sola Scriptura did to the Christian Bible, how do you pacify Al Qaida while it'

          • Do you have a theologically appropriate idea how that is in complete keeping with the mythology of the mujahidin-inspired Individual Jihad?

            No, I do not.

            And given the fact that Individual Jihad opens the Koran up to the same chaotic verse-taken-out-of-context interpretation as Sola Scriptura did to the Christian Bible, how do you pacify Al Qaida while it's busy splitting itself over the next 500 years into 30,000 waring sects?

            A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.

            • Let me know when you do- and in the meantime can we at least now arrest George W Bush and try him for aiding and abetting the enemy based on the evidence released in the press over the weekend? 8 years ago we had a damned good chance at ending the war on terror before it even started by capturing Ossama Bin Laden, putting him on a televised worldwide trial, and then executing him on live TV to prove to Islamics everywhere that Sola Jihad doesn't pay. And what do we do? We fail to invade Pakistan, Turkmen

              • You will be the first to know- if you get first post on my journal.

                Unfortunately, I think you overestimate the influence of OBL or GWB on terrorism worldwide- not to say, I want them to go unscathed, but more to say, the solution is not _just_ to punish the messenger or the perpetrator.

                • The point isn't to solve the problem. The point is to send the message that in the game of terrorism, the United States plays for keeps.

                  I nearly called for the extermination of everybody with the name bin Laden- but in researching that message and my corresponding journal entry, I found quite the touching heartfelt apology from Omar bin Laden- Osama's 4th son- who unfortunately, like the rest of us, hasn't seen his father in person since April 2001.

                  • I respectfully disagree that the point is to show we play for keeps.

                    The point IMHO is to find a solution. The solution IMHO is not that: when the weak find a way to strike; that the strong find a way to punish.

                    If we are all in this together, and we all win or lose together, "terrorism" will cease.

                    We will have a Marxist utopia. And a capitalist utopia. And a democratic utopia. And a Muslim utopia, and a Christian utopia, etc. Likely not a fascist utopia, though. Sorry, and give my regards to Adolph.

                    And

                    • We're not even all in this together. That, precisely, is the problem.

                      What you don't seem to realize is that we will *NEVER* be all in this together as long as we tolerate theologies that teach that the way to utopia is to kill the other guy.

                      The toleration is precisely the problem. As long as that toleration continues, terrorism will be seen as the *PRIMARY* method by which downtrodden and poor societies get the rich to notice them.

  • And the Greeks, or at least the Macedonians, who got tired of war crossing Afghanistan and while they invaded India, they then nearly mutinied against their commander, Alexander the Great.

    • Yeah. Persians in particular and Iranians in general are included under the Dynastic labels in the list.

      Alexander is also really under the Sassanids - this was the Alexandrian dynasty that devolved from the Satrapy for Persia, and left a LONG legacy in the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and among the Indo-Scythians. This kingdom was really the incubator for Buddhism and it was Iranic missionaries from Bactria who transmitted Buddhism east to Kashgaria, Tibet and Sino-Asia.

      Of course, we can be both/either more com

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