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Comment: Re:Really? (Score 1) 1156

Again, I see not a single shred of evidence that supports such claim. No reason at all to invoke supernatural entities. Zip. Nada. So I won't claim it is completely impossible, but then again I don't go special pleading for it. That which can be claimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Magic has often been used to to explain things we don't understand, but guess what? They all vanished once the real explanation was found. Alas, that doesn't stop people from finding new mysteries and digging in once more, special pleading that this time, surely, it can be the work of god. Whatever, dude.

Comment: Re:Really? (Score 3, Informative) 1156

The whole idea of atheist - agnostic - theist is quite simplistic. We are dealing with two orthogonal concepts: on one hand there is agnostic versus gnostic, and on the other hand there is atheist versus theist. Gnotics know, agnostics don't. Theists believe, where atheists do not. I don't believe in a god because there is no reason to. I'm agnostic because I don't have knowledge about its existence. In theory, you can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist. Or you can be a gnostic theist or a gnostic atheist.
In respect of a general concept of a god, I'm agnostic, although the general concept of a god is so vague that it doesn't really matter much. If you believe in a god but admit you don't know anything about god, that's a rather moot point to make.
If on the other hand you arrive with a bible, I can be rather certain that it's all made up. Just take a look at all the mythologies, and that christian one doesn't really stand out. There are simpler explanations to why it came to be, and it has to do with unevolved people living in a world they don't understand, making up stories as they go.

Comment: Re:Really? (Score 1) 1156

Same here, when I wrote a letter to the catholic church to basically sod off and would they please remove me from their list of saved souls, my mom freaked out, with no apparent reason. She never goes to church, but the thought of me leaving made her behave like I've never seen before. It was as if her brain crashed.

Comment: Re:Really? (Score 1) 1156

And that's the point where I refer you to the long-term evolution experiment. It just blows your argument away. The experiment keeps extensive records (including deep-frozen sample populations), clearly showing mutation creating new variation.

Close-minded as creationists are, this will go in one ear, out the other. I don't really care. Just know your lame tricks don't work here.

Comment: Re:Really? (Score 1) 1156

I have a rather simple explanation: If you ask people how long it takes for the earth to orbit the sun, only about half will know the answer. Roughly 20% don't even realise that the earth orbits the sun. Let's face it people, we'll just have to accept that we live in a shithole. How are such people ever going to grasp a "complex" concept like evolution?

Comment: Re:God's experiment in free will (Score 1) 1174

by Mr2cents (#40155553) Attached to: Debate Over Evolution Will Soon Be History, Says Leakey

Yes, god can do anything to us, he can order people to be stoned to death for working on a Sabbath (the horror!!) and later admit he was wrong doing that. We are his mere play toys. Anyway, either god made a horrible mistake and only realised that later (that does not sound very omnipotent to me) or he just improvises things and uses duct tape and glue to clumsily try and make things work. Or perhaps he's just a human creation, and his character evolves as humanity evolves - that one would explain a lot.

Comment: Re:God's experiment in free will (Score 1) 1174

by Mr2cents (#40150483) Attached to: Debate Over Evolution Will Soon Be History, Says Leakey

People are very capable of killing each other for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. But these acts of aggression are of a different calibre than claiming a role of authority (based on faith), and then demonizing other people. E.g., I don't know if you're familiar with the good Friday sermon of the catholic church (the self-proclaimed greatest moral authority on Earth).

Each year, the catholic church would pray for the souls of various groups of unbelievers. After each group of disbelievers was named, the flock of churchgoers would kneel. When they turned to the Jews, they were addressed as "pro perfidis judaeis" (ahem), hoping that God may "remove the veil from their hearts" (wtf?). After this, the people were supposed *not* to kneel.

This went on until the second Vatican council (1962-1965). Just as a reminder: the second world war ended in 1945.

I was quite disturbed when I learned about this. This is indoctrinating people with hate. It's despicable beyond words. So yeah, I will always mock people who think accepting claims based on faith earns respect. It doesn't.

"Conversion, fastidious Goddess, loves blood better than brick, and feasts most subtly on the human will." -- Virginia Woolf, "Mrs. Dalloway"

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