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Comment: Re:Can we stop trying to come up with a reason? (Score 1) 460

by AK Marc (#48200623) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders
The problem is that men are intimidated by the presence of women, according to the article. But in my experience, men are afraid to be in a "women's profession" because it makes them look feminine. Those are different issues, but it happened with nurses and teachers before. Once women are "allowed" in large numbers, the men run off.

Comment: Re:Can we stop trying to come up with a reason? (Score 1) 460

by AK Marc (#48199999) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

In your view, is it a problem that men are nearly 10x as likely as women to die on the job?

No. Men self-select the dangerous jobs. I've never met a deep sea welder who was a woman. Women don't self-select out of their area of interest, they are persuaded out of it by parents and colleagues.

Comment: Re:Can we stop trying to come up with a reason? (Score 1) 460

by AK Marc (#48199967) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders
Fixing it when the children are 3 is easy. But "invasive" to have children raise their children right.

When my son was 3 his favorite color was pink. It was bright and fun. When he was 5 and headed to school soon, he picked out his bag for school. He had the choice of Wiggles (Blue) or Dorothy the Dinosaur (pink). He picked the pink one. I let him, as it was his choice. When he got to school, the children made fun of him for having a "girls bag" (the exact same bag as the other, but different color).

Now, at 8, pink is his favorite color again. It took a few years to convince him that the opinions of others don't matter for that, and they were wrong. Every color belongs to everyone.

But beating "pink is a girls color" into him at 3 would have been easier and saved him a teary day or two at school, but at 18+, he'd be raising his children to be like the mean kids at school.

Similarly, fixing the sexism by parents (and others) as the children grow up is easier at 3 than 18. But in college, they are already 18, so the "fix" is much more obvious and extreme.

Oh, and it doesn't hurt CS to work harder at being inclusive. Women are run off by jackasses. And men into computers are more likely jackasses. Women will change jobs more readily to get away from bad people. So naturally, they'll change majors for the same reason.

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