"What makes you say that? Seriously, we are talking about entities that supposedly operate outside the realm of physics and nature as we understand it. Why are you so certain that absolutely nothing could do this?"
If they can be perceived by humans (which some humans claim), they, by definition, operate to some extent within 'the realm of physics and nature as we' perceive it.
"I'm sorry, but I think you failed to pay attention to a few key words. I didn't say it was impossible to find bear shit in the woods, I said it was "near impossible" to find it "when you don't know what to look"."
If you'd read all my response you'd see I paid specific attention to key words.
"If I sent you into the woods to find some specled feathered woodpecker shit and you didn't have any information about it's habitat, what it ate, what it's feces looks like, you probably could never find it. Sure, you could just grab all the shit you could find and test it until you found DNA evidence of it comming from what you were looking for, but how would you know the DNA evidence pointed to the right thing when you don't have any to go off of? Besides, wouldn't it get prohibitively expensive doing it that way?"
Two things; if you know of x species in a certain area and find x+1 types of shit you can tell roughly what it is through DNA analysis. No trace of shit with hominid DNA (other than H. sapiens) in North American woods, or any other xenomorph come to that. In you woody woodpecker example you would find unidentified shit of something with DNA similar to other woodpeckers, but not the same, and infer the existence of a unidentified woodpecker.
Second: the complaint about cost is an excuse, you are making it someone else's problem. Want to prove it; go on then, do proper science and get the funding. Like scientists do.
"lol.. So you failed at reading what was in front of you, then jumped to calling the belief in a god a fantasy. In case you do not know what that noise is, it's all the whooshing going buy you. Eventually, you will have to start ducking from all the air traffic from points flying over your head. don't worry about who believe in God or not. It doesn't pertain to this at all"
You had a point? Other than at the top of your head? And yes, if someone has a propensity to believe in something which has no decent supporting evidence (like god), the fact they rave on to support other things that have no decent supporting evidence is not surprising.
"Lol.. Really. So when you got stopped at a red light on the way home from work today, I should not believe one word you say about it because there is not scientific evidence of that light being red or you stopping at it. I can default to calling you a delusional fantasist because there is no compelling scientific evidence about it at all- just your word or personal experience. And when you try to convince me you're telling the truth, I can say your standards for evidence sucks."
But me being stopped by a red light COULD be proved, and even without a CCTV camera in the area, the claim is not extraordinary. There ARE traffic lights. They DO go red. You could observe me on that route and determine the likelihood I would be stopped by THAT red light on any given day.
Ghosts, god and sasquach are EXTRAORDINARY claims. There is no proof there ARE such things (if I claimed I was stopped by one of them on the way home, the claim is of a different order than a red light). And you could NEVER see such an event, no matter how often you observed me on that route.
But you don't get it and I don't know if you will.